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A journalist and advocate who rose from homelessness and addiction to serve as a spokesperson for Philadelphia’s most vulnerable was shot and killed at his home early Monday, police said.

Josh Kruger, 39, was shot seven times at about 1:30 a.m. and collapsed in the street after seeking help, police said. He was pronounced dead at a hospital a short time later. Police believe the door to his Point Breeze home was unlocked or the shooter knew how to get in, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. No arrests have been made and no weapons have been recovered, they said.

Authorities haven’t spoken publicly about the circumstances surrounding the killing.

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[–] prole 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? Way to miss the point entirely. Not only that, but you've completely misrepresented my argument.

First: yes, this was clearly a targeted shooting, so this discussion doesn't really apply to this specific case. However...

I haven't said anything was no big deal, just pointing out basic statistics. Using the concept of "per capita," when discussing phenomena among very large groups of people, is one of the (if not the) only ways to glean any valuable information from the data.

1,000 gun crimes seems like a lot in a town of 23,000 people. 1,000 gun crimes in a city of 2,000,000 people? Not so much... (obviously these numbers were made up to make a point)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I didn’t miss your point. I understand perfectly what you meant. However, you did miss my pointing out of your use of statistics via per capita as an argument to water down risk against the broader view of the US gun crime rate vs the rest of the world to point out that yes, Indeed, this is a US problem.

[–] prole 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I implied anywhere that I thought it wasn't a US problem, that was not my intention at all. Clearly it is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Per capita rates of gun violence in the United States are almost 90 times higher than the United Kingdom, for instance.

[–] prole 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. This is a uniquely American problem. I am agreeing with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually, I was agreeing with you. I hadn't posted anything prior, so you couldn't have been agreeing or disagreeing with me. I think you confused me for the other person. 😀