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Don't be a vote connoisseur here please. Redefine how you think about voting and participating.

Do you miss your communities from elsewhere. Well guess what, you are that core community now. If you want it back, the only thing holding you back is you. Don't wait on someone else to start posting. You don't need to worry about the perfect polished quality of your content or if it has been done before elsewhere. The current bar is, umm, poorly defined. No one is judging you. Call it practice. EVERY time you see something interesting, get in the habit of posting it please. Maybe go out of your way to grab a reference or two and post them.

Along these lines, think of how unsure and uncomfortable this may seem to most of us former lurker connoisseurs. You can play hard and thick skinned all you want, but you know exactly what post or comment you posted elsewhere that got the most votes or interaction. Why? Because it matters to you. So upvote everything you can. It matters to someone else too. Don't upvote just for the value or interest you have in the content. Do it just to say "hey, thanks for making the effort to participate and make this place a few lines longer." Please rethink how you handle voting, at least for now, think of a down vote as FU for participating, no votes as I wish you weren't here. We are all likely accustomed to a lot more interaction and validation in our own little niches. This is really an underpinning value of social media, we are here to engage with people, so tell people who are new and unsure about a new and different place, "hey, thanks for participating." You may not know or really appreciate their interests, but you can help us grow a core that can evolve into your favorite niches as the community grows. You are the core community. We can all make it grow if we make it a place people want to be.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think putting effort into actively participating is also the best way to truly quit reddit.

I mean, now everyone is angry because of what's happening and we're flooding alternatives with enthusiasm because of this particular moment, but will it last?

When you're so angry about something it's because you deeply care, and as long as we care there's always the risk of going back to it when the "anger moment" will pass, because let's be honest, it will pass sooner or later.

So we need to stop caring, and the best way to do it IMO is being involved as much as possible here, find new people, make new connections, create/participate in new communities, so there's no chance we'll miss anything of what's "on the other side".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

That's the nail on the head, and what has stopped most alternatives in the past. There needs to be a saturation point of usage, what that is for a platform varies.

Not to mention adapting to the new norms and styles. Reddit was fairly open in general, but specific subs had some very ironcald rules about style and usage. old school forums like SpaceBattles are even more 'soft' rule specific simply dictated by the community and the old guard on it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've been ready to leave Reddit for a long time. I'm not angry at Reddit... It's more just continued disappointed. The site was built off of effort from the communities but the corporation won't listen to us for guidance and changes.

The only thing I worry about is that most people won't even hear of alternatives like Lemmy and that will impact adoption. I fear that only the degenerates and extremests will be the ones to make the changes. I hope that isn't how it plays out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

most people won’t even hear of alternatives

I'm still active on reddit, a lot of people are worried about the future of the platform, they're asking questions about alternatives and where fellow redditors are going, lemmy and kbin are mentioned everywhere, people are also directed to r/RedditAlternatives.

We're trying to answer questions as best as we can, we're still very new to the fediverse but the little we know is enough to get people started. Some people are even actively reaching out to others to let them know alternatives exist.

And those who don't ask (or don't lurk) most probably don't care, those are probably the ones that would go on using reddit no matter what, and that's ok, each individual has to decide for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dumb question but was is the difference between Lemmy and Kbin?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know all the details sorry, I'm still very new to it all, but it seems they're just different software implementing more or less the same thing, they're also connected with each other.

I think of it - for example - as LibreOffice and Softmaker Office, they're different software implementing the same thing (an office suite).

Other people can answer much better than me as what the differences are in terms of functionalities, though from what I've seen so far (I joined both), it doesn't seem they differ much, just minor details.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wanted to add that Kbin has better integration with Mastodon if you’re into that.

(Some people may also have ideological issues with Lemmy devs, so that could be a reason for choosing Kbin)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes, there's a tab specific to mastodon posts, so that's a reason.

But joining kbin only because you have issues with the devs doesn't make sense, they're federated, you see all lemmy posts there and you can interact with them like your account was on lemmy.

IMO it's better to join a server that blocks main lemmy and lemmygrad if you don't want to see their political views, there are a few who block them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I fully agree with you, but for full transparency some people do have a problem with it still (e.g. https://mstdn.social/@feditips/110476830253102884 )

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I know and I respect everyone's opinion, but avoiding all lemmy servers only to go to a different platform that still makes you interact will all lemmy servers doesn't make any sense, I would hope they realize this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m so excited to see actual people posting real comments and it’s feeling like I’m part of an actual community. This is pretty cool - and I’m going to try and participate a lot more instead of just lurking like I used to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Instead of bots and trolls right? Yeah me too :)