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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I just got charged $165 a couple days ago from two yearly subscriptions I totally forgot I had. We need a better solution. The banks should just implement the usage of Virtual Cards like Privacy.com does. It'd be so much more convent for people to cancel subscriptions, if they're allowed to have multiple different virtual cards that they can easily toggle on or off.

Why don't the banks do this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need a better solution

Sorry to sound harsh, but....self control?

I have a subscription for a VPN. I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes trying to think of others. I suppose my internet etc is a subscription

I can't think of anything else

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I just have a subscription for music and cloud storage, that's it. I don't understand how some people have all of the subscriptions

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Why don't the banks do this?

They get a cut of every transaction, and the more debt you accrue, the more money the bank makes if you carry a balance. They are financially disincentivized from protecting you from your spending.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The banks are in on it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one wants this other than user. Banks, just like everyone else, are in a business of making your wallet lighter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Once they got you signed up for a bank account, the last thing they want is you thinking about money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It seems people think otherwise according to down-votes. Not that I care about those but am finding it incredibly humorous there are people who think bank is your friend. Lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why don't the banks do this?

Both of my banks allow unlimited virtual card creation. I think it just depends on where you live.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Most subscriptions can be canceled with a few clicks, usually right after buying it without loosing the paid for time. If you cant manage your subscriptions, that sounds like a problem you should address yourself instead.

Your suggested solution of simply turning off the credit card the subscription is linked to doesn't cancel said subscription, it just results in a breach of contract from your side. That only works cause most companies can't be asked to deal with you, otherwise the subscriptions would continue and the incurring cost would sooner or later be sent to a collecting agency, with additional charges for late payments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are right. The fact that cashless transactions are built on a pull model, where a shop/service is charging you instead of you being the one who sends the money, is absolutely fucking insane. I recently lost a few hundred bucks just because the shop used the wrong currency to charge me, leading to a double conversion at the absolutely shittiest rates, and by the time I got to someone in charge, the transaction was already cleared and set in stone. With a sane system this never would've happened.

In my home country they actually recently started to adopt such a model. Instead of you giving the card# to everyone, they instead show a QR code with all the necessary payment details: BIC, SWIFT, IBAN, the rest of scary numbers, order number and the invoice. You just open the bank app on your phone, point it at the code, review the sum and any possible fees, press confirm, and the moment the transaction is cleared the page just reloads automatically with order confirmed. I believe there's also a special URL schema for when you don't have a PC, but I haven't tried it yet so can't tell for sure. With this approach, subscriptions are much easier to manage, because it's the bank's job to send the money, so they can list all recurring payments on a special page where you could just cancel one. Also helps with scummy services that stop providing service the moment the subscription is canceled - they won't even know you did until the the next day the payment is due.

EDIT: There is indeed a custom URL schema, and lots of cool stuff like offline payments without plastic. But some of it is still clunky, including subscriptions, which only a few banks support and most services are opting to use their own billing systems for now.