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Unity adding a fee for devs for each time a game is installed, after certain thresholds (www.gamesindustry.biz)
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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I got some clarifications from Unity regarding their plan to charge developers per game install (after clearing thresholds)

  • If a player deletes a game and re-installs it, that's 2 installs, 2 charges
  • Same if they install on 2 devices
  • Charity games/bundles exempted from fees

Regarding this being abused by bad actors:

Unity says it will use fraud detection tools and allow developers to report possible instances of fraud to a compliance team

- @stephentotilo

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That clarification makes it even worse, this is obviously an attempt to push free to play or indie games out the window while making major bank.

The fraud detection will not help at all to prevent abuse especially in cases like steam family sharing where other "users" won't have to pay to install the game!

There's literally no reason to charge per game install here, the only possible reason is greed

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fraud detection is especially bad because they have a financial incentive to ignore, or under-report installation fraud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly! I'd put money on a group abusing it, admitting to abusing it, and the game devs still being charged in the near future.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So basically they’re explicitly condoning it. That’s not just bad, but even worse that they’re doubling down that a delete+reinstall will charge the dev twice.

This will end a lot of indie projects and they’ve basically destroyed their good standing in indie dev circles.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's time to chuck unity in the bin. If not Godot, go for unreal.. though I would check their requirements beforehand first.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hard to chuck unity in the bin when you don't use unity.

We're lucky there are enough other engines on the market at the moment, but eventually someone will need to spearhead a FOSS engine with blackjack and hookers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Godot is a FOSS engine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But does it have the blackjack and hookers? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'd make my own branch with BJ and hookers, but both GCC and Clang failed to compile :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm sure somebody somewhere has made both of those games in Godot. Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Oh, fantastic. Good to know, thanks!

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome 35 points 2 years ago

So once a game stops selling it had better hope its player base dries up and stops reinstalling it? The way that is phrased makes it sound like you could net lose money over the long term if sales decline and people keep reinstalling it