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A gun rights group sued New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) and other state officials on Saturday over an emergency order banning firearms from being carried in public in Albuquerque.

The National Association for Gun Rights, alongside Albuquerque resident Foster Haines, filed suit just one day after Grisham announced the public health order temporarily suspending concealed and open carry laws in the city.

The group argued that the order violates their Second Amendment rights, pointing to the Supreme Court’s decision last year in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Does not being allowed to regulate things you know nothing about also extend to uteruses, the environment, etc?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop going off topic. You aren't disagreeing with him and presenting a valid argument. You're just trying to change the subject matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the right wing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm liberal, and I'm saying banning firearms in public is more of a "feel good" measure than it is actually useful. Unless you give pat downs as people leave their house then tons of people will violate this ordinance.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And the moment they do, they won't be the "law abiding gun owner" they're always crowing about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Ah yes the good old, make law abiding citizens I don't like... criminals lol what a load of shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a very weird contrast. The environment affects everyone, my neighbors uterus doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Just the first two things that came to mind where the people who will jump up and down about magazines vs clips have no problem with laws regulating things they don't understand.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course it does. You should have the right to have an abortion. You should have the right to refuse vaccination (although private businesses should have the right to refuse to allow you entry or employment if you aren't). You should have the right to own the firearms that work best for you.

You should have the rights to make choices about yourself and your own body that do not cause direct, immediate harm to other people.

If you're going to argue that guns should be illegal because you can kill a person (illegally) with one, then it's just as reasonable to argue that abortion should be illegal because you're killing a person.

The only problem here is that both Republicans and Democrats are inconsistent, but in opposite ways.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Your second paragraph pretty well contradicts your first paragraph as far as vaccinations go.

And your third doesn't follow any kind of logical reasoning since one of the ideas behind legal abortion is bodily autonomy.

Your fourth paragraph is making conclusions based on the first three, but since they're full of holes, there's nothing to actually support your assertion.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your second paragraph pretty well contradicts your first paragraph as far as vaccinations go

Failing to be vaccinated does not cause direct, immediate harm to other people. It's a potential harm that isn't necessarily realized in any given instance.

And your third doesn’t follow any kind of logical reasoning since one of the ideas behind legal abortion is bodily autonomy.

Conservatives argue that a blastocyst is a human, since life starts at conception. Therefore, the conservative argument is that any abortion (aside from spontaneous abortions, AKA miscarriages) is intentionally causing the death of a human. Don't pretend like you didn't know this, since that's been their entire claim while working the legal angles to overturn Planned Parenthood v Casey (which is what actually overturned Roe v. Wade, not the latest Dobbs decision).

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives argue that windmills cause cancer, who gives a fuck what they think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People that want to win elections and actually try to unite people instead of creating more division? People that want to persuade?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah i completely oppose uniting with them whatsoever same as I oppose uniting sex offenders with school boards. Any compromise with them is detrimental.