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There must be some way of charging him. Not that it’d stick, but I gotta think there’s some law that was violated, right?
By the books he should have to register as a foreign agent, and should be penalized for not doing so before engaging in foreign agent activity.
There is. His actions are against the law and he can be charged. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
He didn’t negotiate with foreign governments though, nor is any foreign government involved in a dispute with the USA, so that doesn’t apply. All he did was say no when asked if he could give them access to his product to use in an act of war.
Your definition of a dispute (or controversy) is absurd. Likewise is your assertion that Musk's communicating with Putin about Ukraine would not constitute negotiation. It's a stretch to content that all they talked about was having tea.
Musk is not a government representative in any form and the service paid for by the DoD is literally being used in acts of war every day. This asshole actively interfered with American foreign policy and provided comfort and support to a country that is arguably engaged in direct hostilities with the US. There should be serious, life changing consequences to that kind of activity.
There are no direct hostilities with the USA.
We are experiencing daily cyberattacks from Russia, election interference, and propaganda specifically targeting American's views across the political spectrum. There is a dictionary definition of "hostility" and what Russia is doing and has been doing for years fits it precisely. You don't get to make up your own definition any more than you get to make up your own facts.
Lol still going with the completely disproven “election interference” thing are you?
You are trying to use hostility in a completely different meaning to what the Logan Act means.
It's sad when people believe their own propaganda, make up their own facts and even go so far as to make up definitions to common English words. Dispute and hostility mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.
And the "completely disproven" election interference? Completely proven.
A tiny portion of just the unredacted findings we know about from the Senate Intelligence Report on Russian Interference in the 2016 Election:
Just keep telling yourself that there was no conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, despite the copious evidence to the contrary. Self-delusion seems to be a maga specialty and you've got it down.
I’m not even American you turnip, let alone “MAGA” 😂
What do they call authoritarian followers like you in your country? Sheep?
So the guy who wrote this book that has caused all this controversy came out and clarified that Musk did NOT shut off starlink, but like I said he just refused to turn it on in a new area:
https://x.com/walterisaacson/status/1700342242290901361?s=46&t=Cbb3biYQblpmbWC3J0KfQg
What you have to say now?
What do they call authoritarian people like you who want the government to own everything and tell you what to do? Communists?
Except at the time the US Government's policy was for Starlink to NOT extend coverage outside of Ukraine's borders.
Musk followed US stated policy by disobeying Ukraine's request.
I'm not for the guy and think he's done waaay more wrong than good, but wasn't everyone against him even offering starlink on the first place? Now everyone is mad that they didn't use more starlink? Honestly just seems like a lose lose situation right now for him. Had he overstepped his bounds and used starlink as an aggressor, instead of defense like he has been doing (which is one thing the US said to Ukraine, defend your land not attack theirs) people would have dragged him through the mud for that instead.
I'm all for being critical when it's due, especially for a guy trying to role-playing Edison and his shitty tactics, but idk about this one.
Edit: Here's a link explaining it a lot more clearly about why the news is making this bigger than it was.
Edit edit: link broken lemmys hard lol
Precisely. For the one time the guy follows the rules... like there haven't been a thousand other things he's been doing that deserve criticism... this one is a really weird smear campaign to pick.
And a full year after the fact, at that. Where were all these people in 2022 when all this happened?