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Mozilla released their studies, and I'm seeing a growing number of posts on the Internet about cars and the privacy nightmare they entail. I remember how this issue wasn't talked about earlier because "just buy an older car" was still prevalent. I'm so happy that people are taking notice. Thank you to this community and Mozilla for the work they are putting in!

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How exactly do they collect info other than GPS?

How are people interacting with the "radio" that it's given so much info?

Are new vehicles required to be connected to phone network to function?

What functionality is lost of not connected.

As a motorist who prefers to drive cheap cars that have a little tech as possible so that there is little to go wrong and what goes wrong I can fix myself I know nothing about the latest gen of cars

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cars are mandated to have a "SIM" (I don't know how this is implemented, that's a question for the engineers) inside that can be connected at all times. This was originally meant for faster accident response, and I'm assuming car companies have contracts with the Telecom companies (someone from the engineering/law teams help me here) to transmit data over their networks even when the user's devices are not connected

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what if the cellular connection "accidentally" breaks and doesn't get fixed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ota updates don't get to the car. That could be a problem, it could not be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I meant legally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that's the case then why do cars cry about wanting internet connection for updates?

[–] clay_pidgin 2 points 1 year ago

It may be that the car company doesn't want to pay more for the cell service than they need to; if they can push the download onto your cell plan it's cheaper for them.