MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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"Retard" is a slur that is mean to dehumanize - the association that a developmental disability makes you less than full human.
So is idiot. So is stupid. So is every single other insult.
Stupid and idiot do not target disabilities.
Oh, but they do! Look into the historical usage of these words. Both were used for the intellectually disabled.
Are you going to cancel the usage of idiot and stupid? Or are you going to accept that, like idiot and stupid, words change their meaning over time, and retard is one such word going under a change.
You are correct on "idiot", you are wrong on "stupid".
The evidence in the meme that started this conversation is that it is not undergoing a change.
Idiot is not longer used to refer to actual mental disability, the r-slur is. Maybe eventually the r-slur meaning will change. I don't see any point in hypothesizing about the fuzzy future possibility of a words meaning, the only thing that matters is what the word means right now, in real life. Your position has no standing.
Hey, hold on now. You're the only one who is making the connection that retard is explicitly referring to those with intellectual disabilities. Everyone else is using it in the meaning of they are stupid.
No, it is in fact likening the person that you're insulting to someone with intellectual disabilities. Sorry goat, you don't have a leg to stand on in this one. Best to just not.
I'm not offended by it. I don't think you should be either
Nobody is offended, we're just letting you know that you look like a bad person and ruining the your credibility of your character.
that's fine