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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course that puppet state was staffed with Nazis, who do you think was the first head of NATO

[–] JohnDClay 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But was the government Nazi? Since Nazi Germany had conscription, I'd image it'd be hard to find anyone in Germany who wasn't a Nazi. But as I understand it, there was actual systematic denazification that kept the government on track.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But as I understand it,

you have demonstrated over and over again that your understanding is woefully incomplete, almost cartoonishly shallow

[–] imaqtpie 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Since Nazi Germany had conscription, I’d image it’d be hard to find anyone in Germany who wasn’t a Nazi. But as I understand it, there was actual systematic denazification that kept the government on track.

Seems like you didn't have a good response to this point, would you like to try again?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was no "systemic denazification". We killed a few figureheads, then put the rest back into power, and into NATO leadership. West Germany was a Nazi country.

[–] imaqtpie 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The soviets did a much more thorough job of denazification. How did that work out for the people of east Germany?

Is Germany still a nazi country now? If not, when did it stop being a nazi country?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Are you asking about the political implications of denazification for East Germany?

I'd say that the fact that Nazis were effectively eradicated in East Germany is proof enough that it turned out well for them.

Or are you concern-trolling about the Berlin Wall or the economic underdevelopment of east Germany comparative to West Germany devoid of any historical context or something like that?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like you don't have good reading comprehension, would you like to try again?

[–] imaqtpie 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

All of germany living any sort of comfortable/wealthy deserved the axe, you could have replaced them with the victims/oppressed you terrible person.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Look up some of these Nazis in the BRD. We're not talking about conscripted soldiers. The people that are brought up check one or (often) multiple of the following boxes:

  • Members of the Nazi party and other Nazi organizations, and they weren't forced to join these either.
  • Officers or officials in charge of the war crimes, the Holocaust, or some other Nazi crimes.
  • People directly on-the-ground involved in war crimes and mass murder.
  • Capitalists or managers profiting off the Nazi war effort, using slave labor and/or profiting of stolen Jewish wealth.

There were thousands of people guilty of stuff like this in all levels of the BRD government, including many the highest levels. This was normal. The Western allies could have hanged some top 10,000 of those responsible, easily, but they didn't. They let them out of prison, hired them, and helped them escape justice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure camp survivors weren't. They would have needed new jobs so that would have been pretty a pretty good way to help fix things. Only we didn't want justice. We wanted people who were used to fighting the soviets. So nazies. We wanted them in power, just working for us.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Gehlen Organisation, which later became absorbed wholesale into the West German state as their intelligence apparatus, was literally just a bunch of Nazis headed by Nazi lieutenant-general Reinhard Gehlen.

Was the government Nazi? Well, that entire arm of the government certainly was!