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Just look at the speed that the RV was going! The driver was given a $500 ticket for almost killing 30 cyclists. Insane that they're even allowed to drive after that.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate the passive way headlines are written when it comes to crashes involving bikes. "Tossed" is such a light word for what happened. "Passing RV" as if it wasn't the cause of it all and just happened to be there

That driver should never be allowed on the road again. There's no excuse.

Glad the guy is alive.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At the very least, Arizona and many other states should require a separate license and training to operate an RV that size.

And yeah, regardless of vehicle, it was an incredibly stupid (and illegal) decision to pass that closely.

BTW, AZs 3 ft passing law limits civil penalties to $500 if serious injury is causes, $1000 if death.

Dont know if the driver could be found negligent in a civil lawsuit?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's an incredibly stupid law. Why have a fine at all if it's just $500-1000? If you kill someone with your car and it's your fault, your license should be suspended.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, that's a jailable crime where I'm from ffs

[–] sugar_in_your_tea -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't that depend on motive? Accidentally killing someone usually doesn't result in jail time unless it reaches the level of gross negligence (i.e. you're looking at your phone or something when you hit a pedestrian). If you kill someone intentionally, you're absolutely looking at jail time because that's murder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, not being able to properly control multiple tons of machinery on a public road can be considered gross negligence.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 1 year ago

It could, depending on the merits of the case. In the case of this article, I do think it rises to that standard, but that's not true of all accidents involving motor vehicles. That's my point.