this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2023
290 points (96.8% liked)
Asklemmy
44214 readers
1235 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy π
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- [email protected]: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I'm paying some guy's mortgage but he gets to keep the house at the end.
Someone paying $800 a month for their rent is gonna have paid $470,400 by the time they retire. That's like two fucking mortgages for the "service" of not being homeless.
It's just restructured feudalism at this point. We've abstracted away the direct relationship between landlord and serf, but over half our labor is still going to some third party doing none of the work.
If you like your feudal lord, you can keep them!
If you don't like your feudal lord, you also keep them!
The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most successful proletarian revolution resulting in almost perfect redistribution of land.
Fun fact, the benefits persist to this day. Nearly 90% of people in China own their home http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-05/15/content_15295765.htm
Feudal serfs got way more vacation days than us
Those were not vacation days, just days where they could till their own fields instead of their lord's. For most people life then was full of backbreaking labour, illiteracy, disease and the constant looming threat of starvation. There is no need to romanticise feudalism.
I'm actually seriously considering selling and going back to renting to get my flexibility back. I really despise being tied down to physical location, and the constant threat of having to move for a different job makes it even worse.
Probably won't sell in the current market, but when it makes a bit more sense.
People who worry about βflexibilityβ are aliens to me
How are you in a material spot to just bounce around because you want to?
This person admitted they won't actually carry through with it, they just want to sound like a wealthy person.
They clearly are wealthy enough that their brain is half rotted, causing them to say things like βIβve seen many people living in poverty because they refuse to moveβ
Absurd
Moving across state lines is simple. Just reserve a U-haul box truck and off you go!
Literally, when I told them they were detached from reality they responded βwhat? No Iβm not, itβs not expensive I just rent a truck and move!β
I got a new job after the pandemic and got 3k in relocation compensation, and that didn't even cover the most bare bones of a move.
It's not that I necessarily want to. Jobs just usually end one way or the other after a while. In my experience, renting really opens up the job market. Move wherever the new job is. That's a lot harder when you own.
I just can't imagine leaving my community so easily for a job I guess, but I imagine plenty of folks must do it all the time.
congrats on having a community.
i hate it here get me out
Find a big queer city >:) even if you aren't queer there'll be plenty of fine folks and communists abound
Yeah, I guess everyone has different priorities. I just refuse to let myself or my family live in a crappy situation because I want to stay in a specific location. I often see people living in poverty because they refuse to leave a place to take a job elsewhere. Doesn't make sense to me, but everyone has their own life.
People donβt live in poverty βbecause they refuse to moveβ
They live in poverty because they are stuck there, and moving to somewhere else is incredibly expensive and difficult
Your worldview is utterly detached from the reality of the common person
Not sure how that's "detached from reality."
I've moved a ton. It has never cost me anything other than the cost of renting a moving truck and sore legs for a few days. Certainly beats living in a place with no job or some random low-paying job.
Okay lol
Lol what?
Lol that you think your experience is the norm while claiming that others are simply fools for choosing not to move
The news flash here brain genius, is that YOU can do that, almost everyone else cannot
All right. Fair enough. I don't think that I took everyone else for a fool, but I never saw it as a very expensive or hard thing to move. Not in my experience. But others could have a different experience. Thanks for the heads-up.
Thanks for reflecting o7
Yeah I mean, I came from a very poor region and it was hard to move for me, but it was made easier because my family was beginning to cut me off for being queer anyway and I had the privilege of WFH too. I know lots of people who'd move out of their region if not for their family supporting them in some way they can't get elsewhere (or they don't think so, atleast).
I'm the same as you, but I recognise that I had the privilege of being born in the capital of a very centralised country so there's little reason for me to move to better my lot. If I'd grown up in a deprived former mining town up north I'd probably have been long gone as soon as I could.
I like the flexibility too, I just wish I could have it without giving some leech half my paycheck.
As someone who had to move 5 times I four years due to landlords and am now in my seventh glorious year in my own flat, that sounds mental.
What would you do if you lost your job and couldn't find anything in your current location?
In the current high-interest market I'd probably rent out the property and rent something else wherever the job is located. But then you have to be willing to be a landlord. Some people aren't.
As I said to someone else Futher down, I recognise that I'm privileged to have been born and live near the capital of a very centralised country so I never really need to worry about moving for work as I'm already where the highest wages are. I just got so miserable as a renter moving so much and never feeling like I had an actual home I couldn't go back to it now I'm settled.
Got it. That's just not the situation of most people. They have to move for a job or live in a terrible situation. I'd move in an instant rather than live in crap.