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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Don't know about USA, but in Germany the inflationary use of "Nazi" by leftists weakened the term a lot. So if someone is called a Nazi, you don't have to assume anymore it's a bad person. I believe it will be impossible to turn that back.

See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_creep and https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aap8731

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

in Germany the inflationary use of “Nazi” by leftists weakened the term a lot

Excited to hear more about the big leftist media outlets that have dominated Germany for the last sixty years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Damn this mf spittin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Ahhh is it a US type situation over there as well? Nothing but right wing media in sight. At least when talking about all mainstream media.

[–] SomeAmateur 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I agree it used to mean actual, armband wearing, genocide creating, goose stepping evil people that started WWII.

Yes today there are still people who somehow support that shit with the books, flags, tats and armbands to prove it. There is a term for it. Neo Nazi. If you want Nazis to punch these are it, though it might not make them any less of one.

Now by that standard is Trump a Nazi? No. But some throw the term around to essentially mean group=bad. The left crazies do it with nazi, the right crazies do it with communism. Over time it loses meaning to the point where nobody takes it seriously. Boy who cried wolf. The way to stop that is to only use the term on the real people, not the kinda sorta if you squint your eyes it's similar in a way people. Not to say they they aren't assholes or don't deserve to be called out by other terms..

Anyway yes people hate the real deal Nazis, but probably not every group someone on twitter slaps that label on to. End rant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump may not be a Nazi or a Neo-Nazi, as those are extremely specific subsets of Fascism. Trump is an authoritarian fascist. His TV series proved that well before his second or third presidential campaign.

[–] SomeAmateur 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. But he's also not "actual Hitler" as many have said over the years. It's different levels of asshole and I wish people had more nuance is my point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Idk, he wanted to order the military to go in with weapons blazing at blm protesters. Defended those who marched and chanted in Charlottesville that “Jews! Will not! Replace us!”

He may not have the name hitler, but he seems to love that stuff. Oh yeah and covered up (has something to do with?) Kashoggi being quartered, alive when he himself couldn’t listen to the tapes of the sounds of agony. What exactly would earn him “Nazi” status, in your view?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s almost as if there’sa term for right wing authoritarianism/authoritarianism, isn’t it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Similer circumstance in russia. Where everyone bad and aganist russia is a nazi. Ukraine needing dezafication. Etc since from their perspective its only ever been Nazi's they had no red scare since they were the red scare

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what! Is wrong with Zafication?!?! I'll tell you something, if you've got a problem with Zafis, then you've got a problem with me! I suggest you think about that! /j

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[–] MartinXYZ 3 points 1 year ago

Also terms like "grammar Nazi" is helping to weaken the seriousness of the word.

In Denmark people sometimes use it to say that somebody is quite particular about something (similar to "grammar Nazi") like " yeah, he's kinda Nazi about people not wearing shoes in his apartment" I don't know if that's common in other countries too? But it's definitely weakening the gravity of the word 'nazi".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

And I'm here wondering if Godwin's idea came because he saw something like this and wanted to stop it or if he saw an opportunity to silence criticism of Nazi-like strategies.

And I'm not sure if I should be happy or sad that we're in a post-Godwin world now. On the one hand, it was a dumb "rule" because there's certainly times where Nazi comparisons are apt. But on the other hand, we only got post-Godwin because Nazi ideas have regained enough popularity that some are openly embracing the label.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I see facist pedophiles who are also extremely racist against non whites daily in Montana. Is that a Nazi?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Anyone who apologizes for Nazi ideologies is a Nazi. They are spreaders of the Nazi intellectual contagion.

Never forget.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just FYI, it's fascist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Was supposed to be racist child molesters. Will edit. Not that racism and fascism isn't the same.