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The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he's in isn't accommodating his vegan diet.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

So let him buy his food from the commissary. The prison doesn't serve potatoes? You can live off potatoes alone for a long time. Is there juice, cereal, rice, or beans? I find it hard to believe there isn't. He's clearly exaggerating the limits of his diet.

It's jail. You don't get to go where you want, do what you want, wear what you want, or eat what you want. You don't get to make choices about your life. That is part of the punishment.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should look at what prisoners get to eat in France. Here in Spain prisoners wear their own clothes, only guards wear uniforms.

I believe the idea of prison should be that you are punished by you're freedom of movement being taken away. Not by being forced to eat inedible food or food that goes against your moral code.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If he had a moral code he wouldn't have harmed so many people. He doesn't. He's just a brat who wants to do whatever he pleases.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It’s jail.

Yes it is. Which is where you go before being sentenced. So maybe don't punish people so harshly.

I'm not saying he deserves a gourmet vegan diet, but a few accommodations wouldn't be beyond the pale.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Therein lies the philosophical question, is prison about punishment or rehabilitation? Dehumanising these people and telling them their beliefs and practices don't matter isn't going to make them want to return as a reformed member of society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Prison is both punishment and rehabilitation. The essence of it is to teach the prisoner to follow rules. Eating what you are told to eat is child-level rules following and he still can't do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you'd have the same opinion of an islamic or Jewish prisoner forced to eat pork then?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a lot easier to avoid eating one specific meat than all meats and animal products. Those are also religious restrictions which are protected. His veganism is an arbitrary choice he made, not an external religious mandate. You might as well expect the jail to give him nothing but chocolate cake because that is what he chooses.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ethical Veganism is a recognised belief system and has the same protections as religious beliefs where I live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

From a quick search, it appears SBF is being held in New York and that state does not recognize ethical veganism in jails/prisons that I could find.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure the commissary accepts crypto …

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly. While he might have to find alternative sources of protein by forgoing meat there is obviously going to be ample stuff on the menu he can eat. If he claims he's living off bread and water, he is either an extraordinarily picky eater, or more likely just a liar out for some sympathy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

You haven’t been proven guilty of anything when you’re in jail. it should not be punitive. Innocent until proven guilty.

When he gets to prison, by all means go ahead (I mean I believe in rehabilitation not retribution but that's personal); until then why not treat him like a human?