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What happened to the main Piracy community (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It's gone. Wanted to ask over here before I went to check on Reddit.

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[–] Madbrad200 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Official statement

[–] [email protected] 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them.

[–] asuka 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it make sense? Did Comcast have to/did they block my access to RARBG while it still existed? No. I get removing piracy content on their own instance, but blocking other instances is not necessary.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that the admins are all just volunteers and the instance doesn't exist to make money. If a big company decides to sue them, even if they are in the right, they will be drowned in legal fees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point.

[–] asuka 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is allowing access to piracy resources the same as hosting piracy resources? Is Comcast at risk of being shut down because they didn't block everyone's access to RARBG? This is largely rhetorical; the answer is "no". lemmy.world's admins are not being honest.

[+] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

There is no content in these communities, they are for discussion. Linking to content is against the rules in fact.

[–] asuka 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you sure that's true? All content from all other federated servers are hosted on all other servers? That certainly doesn't sound right; I thought that the fediverse protocol just allowed us access to other servers running the protocol, not that our instance actually runs content from their instance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Comcast has money to defend itself. That's a huge difference.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can someone transcribe this for those of us using screen readers? As a server in Canada, We're also worried about the hosting risk of the piracy community and considering blocking it. I'd love to read the LW statement.

[–] Madbrad200 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They made a announcement here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

The original was posted on discord. It was:

Removal of Piracy Communities

Earlier today, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct.

The communities that were removed due to this decision were: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected].

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assitance in obtaining it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks! Perfect. Wish I could award...Lemmy Gold? LOL

[–] can 5 points 1 year ago

Lemmy Lemon 🍋

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's the original announcement in text: https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

Thanks for the reminder that screenshots aren't accessible for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I didn't realize there was an announcement on Lemmy, or I would have searched. Unfortunately screenshots are kind of the only way to share posts on Discord, because you can't link someone to a Discord message on a server they're not a member of, so I can't blame you for a screenshot there. However, it is possible to add alt-text on images you post to Lemmy. :-)