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Instance / Server evaporation (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In the Fediverse, what is the solution to instances or servers going missing?

To elaborate: The problem with commercial aggregators like Reddit, Twitter/X, Facebook, etc. is enshitification, for one reason or another. Of course, Lemmy, etc. on the Fediverse is the alternative solution, seemingly. But let's say that the hardware for a large Lemmy instance just disappears. What happens to all of the posts? Yes, old posts will still be available for a while on other instances. But, seemingly, there won't be any more updates. How is this addressed?

Moderators would of course be interested in continuing but they may not have the skills and resources to set up the hardware.

Instances/servers can disappear for many reasons: retirement, illness, confiscation, war, bungee jumping or parachuting accident, ... the list goes on.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is none, except for server mirrors. But most admins don't bother with that. The ultimate solution is to host your own instance. You can do that because the source is available.

But what's the solution to investors dumping reddit, Elon running X into the ground, etc? Not only is there not one, but Reddit hasn't been open source for years, and the only thing that's been opened with X is its recommendation algorithm.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your own instant doesn't solve anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does somehow, because you are responsible for keeping it online

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what do you propose exactly? That everyone just moves to your own instance? That won't work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not talking about users, but communities.

In summary, if you really want to make sure that your communities are well managed, host them on your own instance.

[–] McNasty 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Host on your own instance until you die unexpectedly from a heart attack at age 42.

Now your [email protected] community with 2 million subscribers isn't available to anyone. Because you're dead and didn't pay your server bill.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This was oddly specific 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You set up an long lasting organisation to manage the server. Such servers such as Lemmy.sdf.org are such examples.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's the problem :)