this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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They aren't pro corpo Ai.
They're very much against the mass scraping/ddos ai companies are doing.
Hell, db0 contributes to [email protected] a lot.
All of the self-hostable LLMs and image generators (or at least, all of the ones capable of the quality people have come to expect for the last few years) people are using today are trained on massive scraped datasets far beyond the reach of hobbyists. There are many so-called "open source" models which are free to modify (eg, by fine-tuning) and to redistribute, but the data used for the initial training (which hobbyists are allowed to build upon) cannot be published because doing so would obviously be large-scale copyright infringement.
Also, even with the data (which in many cases also needs to be labeled/annotated using human labor), the cost of training such a model from scratch is astronomical.
As a pirate myself, I totally understand how, after reading that Meta's training data included 82TB of pirated books they torrented, one's first thought might be "🤤" ... but to imagine that this makes Meta our ally in the fight against copyright is some temporarily-embarrassed-millionaire kind of thinking.
You’ve been posting on this instance for 6 days, yet you seem so knowledgeable about the user in question. Insteresting…
Also: Did you really accuse me of being an alt of him?
This is my new account. I was on lemm.ee but they're shutting down.
@[email protected] .
I still think it's disgraceful to generate and defend AI slop over copyright ideals. To me, it says they admire bullshit computer generated phantasms more than actual, human art.
I see what you're saying but fuck copyright.
Strongly agreed