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[–] Panamalt 47 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This should work. Healthcare should be a free, no-questions-asked (within reason, obvio) service available to anyone at any time, regardless of who/ what they are.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is the birth of a human child. Healthcare tends to want to protect children, even if the parents do not.

[–] Panamalt 8 points 4 days ago

Which is highly situational and requires the judgment of those trained to make those judgments (aka. child social workers or family therapists), not a blanket policy of requiring invasive and non-medical information from those simply seeking medical care.

In an obviously abusive situation, the abuse is clear enough that it can be addressed in the time it takes to give birth and examine the tiny human. In less obvious abuse cases, the parents can almost certainly make it through the entire visit without raising suspicion, regardless of the information provided (though it might make them easier to identify if the abuse is discovered later). There should be an observation period where nobody gets to go anywhere, but again, that should be limited to only what is medical in nature.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, they would deliver the baby. That's how healthcare generally does work - even in the US - for emergency situations. Only issue is, if you won't answer any questions, they'll probably keep the baby, for a number of arguably good reasons. Human trafficking, for starters.

When you finally sign the forms you need to sign to convince the hospital to let you have the baby, then you will get hit with the horrifying dystopian medical debt. Or you will pay (almost) nothing if you live in any sane society.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sovcits have actually showed up at hospitals before and CAS has gotten involved. One was a sovcit couple who were trying to deliver baby themselves out in the woods in a state park in Kentucky I think; labour stalled after 2 days so they finally came in, and during the admission told the hospital staff they planned to move back into the tent with baby when born, which was during the winter, and refused to get baby a birth certificate or give him a name, so CAS took him and their rights were eventually terminated and baby adopted out. Dad later got arrested at a library for threatening people, and they still have Facebook page demanding his return several years later.

There's also an OB nurse who has a great Tiktok about obstetrical care and birth, and she says she has helped deliver three sovcit moms after they finally gave up trying to deliver unassisted and came in, and two of the babies didn't make it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Since they don't believe in government or any kind of public assist, they should either pay cash or trust their god.

[–] Panamalt 2 points 4 days ago

Or, ya know, be given the same basic respect and rights as any other human being. Personal belief lands under the 'don't ask' category, and should never be used as a factor in medical care unless the patient themselves makes a belief-based request.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It pretty much is that way in the rest of the "free world".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Ok, try going in to a hospital in Europe and not give them any information, not including even your name or whether you're allergic to anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Well, I was actually replying to a comment and not the main post but fd that up?! You are right though, why wouldn't they want important and pertinent information to make the best choices throughout the procedure?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It’s possible to have an “anonymous birth”, so mother and baby get medical care, but don’t need to give a name. It is meant for cases where the mother wouldn’t or couldn’t seek help otherwise, e.g. in abusive relationships or family situations.