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God I hate these guys who hop from one to the other job every few years. It's always the guys who talk big, and when they can't deliver (mostly because their "great" ideas will break something else) quickly leave "because this company is too much set in it's ways".
if you're not changing jobs at least every 5 years you're letting yourself get exploited, unless you work at a VERY well unionized place or at something like a worker co-op
This seems like a very U.S. centric view. I live in the Netherlands, most places here are unionized. And ofcourse it doesn't hurt to change jobs every now and then, and I would never stay in a job at a place I don't like working for. But I also wouldn't change jobs just to get a raise, because I would get the raise regardless. Reasons I have quit jobs in the past were 1. a company keeping me working through an agency, 2 an emerging toxic culture, 3. Company got sold and went from being innovative to a cash cow, changing my job from engineering to an administrative position.
And who's going to thank you for getting ground down to the bone doing a job you hate? Loyalty is a lie.
Says who I hate my job? I have switched jobs occasionally, but these guys will work somewhere for less than two years on average. I'm specifically referring to the seagull category of coworkers here, they come flying in with a lot of noise, shit all over the place and then leave with a lot of noise, leaving the shit to clean up for others.
i remember being in an interview for a new marketing leador my dev team. the dude had 13 jobs over 10 years. to me that was the bigge;t of red flags. dude got hired in spite of my protest.
i cannot think ok a worse employee i have ever worked with an i once had a boss embezzle $100k before skipping town.
Lol, I hate people licking corpo boots. No company deserves my loyalty. That's been proven to me over and over again, they also definitely don't deserve my best either. They can get what they always give, the bare minimum to stay an employee.
It's the only way my partner has ever gotten a raise.
It's not the only way I've got a raise. I also got a raise once by saying I was planning on leaving. But I guess that's pretty similar :)
I always think of the raise at the threat of leaving in the following way:
Doing it collectively might be a bit of a different situation, though.
I have 0 faith in these types of people. they stir up pot and leave in a few years. I let them do what they want and then change it back later. They achieve nothing because they refuse to listen and they just want to say the did x for the resume.