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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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Privacy is a team sport - how do we get more people to play? (www.rebeltechalliance.org)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is an open question on how to get the masses to care...

Unfortunately, if other people don't protect their privacy it affects those who do, because we're all connected (e.g. other family members, friends). So it presents a problem of how do you get people who don't care, to care?

I started the Rebel Tech Alliance nonprofit to try to help with this, but we're still really struggling to convert people who have never thought about this.

(BTW you might need to refresh our website a few times to get it to load - no idea why... It does have an SSL cert!)

So I hope we can have a useful discussion here - privacy is a team sport, how do we get more people to play?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Something similar happened in Denmark with the new Sundhedsloven, which had provisions allowing the government to forcefully isolate people in concentration camps, along with forcefully vaccinating them. This was during the COVID-19 pandemia.

This was of course alarming for those who were in the know, but very few people protested (and the law was subsequently amended), but the general attitude from the public was "it's not a problem because something like THAT would ever happen in Denmark." 🤡

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We had some emergency law that was almost passed recently. As in it passed the first of two rounds. The second voting round is just a formality, all laws are just passed after the first in practice. Luckily some law professor raised the alarms and it did not pass the second time. So within a couple of hours margin it was stopped.

The law gave the government the ability to force people to do a lot of stuff, work any job at any place in Norway. If you do not comply you could get up to three years in prison. It would not be a problem with the current or any government in the near future, but it is a law. And we can't have laws that rely on trusting politicians. Because we might have politicians with anti democratic tendencies in the future

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is the same argument against trusting opaque algorithms from proprietary systems (usually billionaire owned). You just don't know when they're going to tweak it for their purposes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

The Swedish authorities have been known to mess with the reproductive rights of minorities, didn't Denmark also meddle in extremely unethical bullshit? Is your comment an obvious reference I'm missing?