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Even if they are using fake cigarettes that smoke can't be healthy to inhale, right?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anything that says nicotine is as addictive as fucking morphine is bullshit. Your chart doesn't even have a source on top of it. Also, am I reading this correctly that weed has a very low lethal dose? As in not much of it will kill you? Who did this study? Some christian mother?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30061507/

Implication: Tobacco products are likely more dependence forming than NR products and coffee although there might be more people dependent on caffeine. The addiction to coffee or caffeine is seldom discussed in the society probably because of the little or no harm it causes.

NR = nicotine Replacement.

Tobacco is hard to quit because of the habit forming part of it, not the nicotine.

I've been smoking cigars/pipe tobacco for over a decade now. I literally will just stop smoking usually in the summer when it's to hot outside. I don't have any urge to smoke, in fact it's the opposite because of the heat it makes me not want to smoke.

So no nicotine is not this super addictive substance that the anti-tobacco groups love to portray it as, it sure as fuck isn't as addictive as fucking morphine or more addictive than fucking cocaine...like holy shit really?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also, am I reading this correctly that weed has a very low lethal dose? As in not much of it will kill you?

No, you are not reading that correctly. It's a ratio derived from the amount needed to achieve desired effects vs the amount that can kill you, so the higher the number the more dangerous it is.

So this chart states that marijuana is pretty safe, in fact if you just looked at the other drugs on the chart you probably could've figured out you weren't reading it correctly.

[–] relative_iterator 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m in the same boat as you, cigars and pipe tobacco occasionally. Definitely never felt addicted. That said, I thought cigarettes had extra nicotine in them so they’re more addictive? That’s not based on anything but seems like something tobacco companies would do.

[–] Corkyskog 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am relatively certain that "adding nicotine" is a myth, at least in the way people think. They definitely did experiment with using tobacco that has higher nicotine content and they also put additives in it to help it burn more quickly delivering the nicotine more quickly.

But overall, cigarette manufacturers would actually prefer you to get less nicotine than you are used to. "Light cigarettes" was absolutely genius for big tobacco. All they did was allow more air to enter the filters, so less smoke and nicotine entered the body. People smoking "Light cigarettes" assumed they were healthier, so they could smoke more of them... which was perfect because you needed to smoke more to get the same amount of nicotine. However all of that can be subverted simply by slightly wetting the outside of the filter, or by hooking your finger around most of it and blocking it.

Unfortunately because of the way lungs work, adding a little bit more air into the smoke mix has a negligible impact on harm to the lungs. So it just meant lungs ended up being exposed to smoke for a longer period of time, on average.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

As the dude below me says, cigs have way less nicotine than cigars or pipe tobacco. Snus/dip has probably the most, then cigars/pipe tobacco then snuff, then cigs. I don't know how many cig smokers I've handed a cigar and they put it down 1/4 way in, and say they're dizzy.