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FYI Hex is now federating again and already bringing their best! Stay classy hex as always ๐
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this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2025
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Yea, and hex and grad of the Tankie Triad are generally pretty widely defederated from. db0 is one notable instance that doesn't and this screenshot is from .ml's side of the modlog who, should go without saying, is perfectly fine federating with the rest of the triad
Trust me, we all hate them too. Not even for political positions anymore (eh, i've heard worse).
Personally i'd love to defederate, but i know a vocal minority on our instance like them, so we'll have to cope for now.
Someone's eventually going to initiate a vote on /0 governance to defederate (i know what i'm voting lol) but i also made this github issue if you're interested https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5578
Must. Resist. Urge. To. Make. db0 account.
The block function should definitely be fixed, but when an instances admins are toxic and/or pushing propaganda/political agenda really, wide defederation is the only answer.
My concern is not of the people already here who a) already know of the Tankie Triad and b) makes an informed decision to block/not block based on that, but what kind of damage instances like hex and .ml can do to the wider Lemmy-verse rep on the outside. I don't want this budding place to become tainted with the stigma of being "That Tankie Place" or "Voat 2.0".
I've already come across a few comments out in the wild that Lemmy has a bunch of tankies, and it's depressing
Do it. I know I'd certainly vote to defederate Hexbear. If you do and decide to make a vote to defederate hexbear include lots of evidence so no one votes against it out of ignorance, only vocal people or those freeze peach types (I don't think there's many of those but I've seen them here on Lemmy).
I've got lots of evidence on .ml posted here, but I've really only been focusing on .ml, but perhaps I could sway people on "If this is the evidence I've been able to gather of .ml, and hex and grad are widely considered to be even worse then it's only logical to vote to defed from the entire Tankie Triad"
ml might be a hard one to sell for people, if servers would defederate from ml that would be good but I think many servers right now are afraid of it backfiring like how Beehaw defederated lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works and killed 90% of their interaction and 100% of their network effect overnight.
Of course I do think things are different now and if big servers defederated ML, ML would be the one to lose out, not the bigger servers. Only reason people still use the Bigger ML communities is because they continue to federate, if they weren't people would use the other ones on places like lemmy.world, sh.itjust.works, lemm.ee, and programming.dev.