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I feel like a huge portion of corporate America has adopted the following strategy:
Like at this point it's on me for engaging with these posts I guess.
French Companies: Now American!
I mean yeah honestly a huge part of European national identities seems to be getting subsumed by philosophies that originated and primarily exist in the US.
I'd imagine that Trump serves as a wake up call in regards to that stuff, but at the end of the day I'm not French.
you mean minorities?
Tbf any women or minorities in a game seem to be a trigger and somehow overtly political for the reactionary right wing snowflakes anymore.
Look if you can't tell the difference between actually well designed games with a diverse cast and Ubisoft crap number 12 then that's on you.
who said anything about any other thing in the games or their origin? All I meantioned was your idea that having minorities involved in anything was "culture war"
Okay so explain to me why things like Spiderverse and Baldur's Gate receive nearly ubiquitous acclaim in ways Snow White and Assassins Creed doesn't.
No.
Explain what "culture war" is, and how it isn't just incorporating minorities into a work.
The difference between actual diversity revolves around tokenization, flanderization, homogenization, and of course gaslighting.
"culture war" minority characters are often inserted into narratives where they don't quite fit, are often one dimensional characters, and often all act in a certain way based off their race/gender/sexuality combo, and are often inserted to gaslight anyone who has an issue with the low quality of the underlying product into thinking all criticism is bigoted.
It's the last point that both you and Ubisoft are leveraging right now. If they replaced Yasuke with some burly Japanese dude, the entire discourse would be centered around how this game is a mid-at-best title for way too much money.
Instead asshole stans like you come out of the woodwork to push a narrative that most negative criticism centered around bigotry.
There are plenty of IPs with minority characters that don't get shit on, because both the IP and the characters are actually good.
Enjoy your $70 mid-fest.
Oh lord someone get this chud out of the thread! And fer fucks sake y'all never ask chuds a got damn thing. Cuz they'll tell you, and it will be the dumbest shit you read today
Look man this "grown adult acting like a middle school bully" thing worked on reddit in 2019 because everyone was terminally online and you'd be backed up by twenty plus commenters hurling vitriol.
It's 2025. There are maybe 15 people total interacting with this post. I have a life in a way that was impossible during the covid era.
Grow up.
"here's 5 bucks, get yourself something to eat ok?"
Now sometimes, they'll engage you directly, but don't worry folks! Just keep moving if that happens, and hope things get better. It's not like you can really do anything for them.
Bad take. You started from the assumption that normal people care about this shit. They categorically do not.
Watch cowboys video that /u/[email protected] posted in this thread. He explains far better than i can that if there's a grift, it's from the people who make money manufacturing outrage.
PS i never knew cowboy was fucking jacked holy shit lol
It couldn't possibly be that making video games at that level is immensely complex and that normal people don't care about your "culture war".
Nope. Never. It's all a giant scam just to make racists angry.
It's a giant scam to get people to defend low effort mediocre content.
It worked for a while, because there was 100 percent a subset of people who just bought games because of social media hype. The combination of the changing media landscape and economic environment has resulted in this falling apart.
Honestly? I kind of see it.
Not to be confused with art where the "culture war shit" (as you put it) is central to the project. See: the new She-ra. Celeste. The Owl House. In these projects, the story is actually about marginalized people.
But other times? It's pretty easy to make your movie, show, game, whatever and then add in some token representation at the end. Rainbow capitalism at its finest. And then people will take sides, not based on the merits of the thing itself, but based on what "team" it looks like they're on when they defend or criticize the thing. See: Starbucks. Disney. Target.
Or, on the other side of the aisle: Christian music. Christian movies. Literally all of the Trump merch. Black Rifle Coffee. Chick-fil-A. Every Christian college ever founded. Whatever fucking show Tim Allen is in this year, they're basically all the same. Any cop show.
... still racist to review bomb something just because a black person is in it. But I do see your point - capitalism be pandering. To both sides, usually in different ways.
Sure, but the vast majority of people realize what's going on if an IP starts rambling on about freedom, Jesus, or the thin blue line. You can make comments about those things being transparent pandering and the overwhelming majority of people will just believe you.
Meanwhile up until recently that wasn't really true with liberal pandering, and it still isn't in a lot of spaces.
One thing to note is that I disagree with you on using Chick-fil-A as an example. They are true believers when it comes to this stuff, and half their claim to fame is being good to such an extent that liberals eat there anyway.
The less subtle ones, yeah. There are more subtle ones, too.
Maybe we're just in different spaces then. There's a reason "bury your gays" is a trope, and it's not because the lgbt community ate it up. (For the unaware, it's similar to "the black guy always dies first" but for gay people.)
The only time I've heard of "bury your gays" was Voltron, which IMO was a good series that was murdered by a fandom that resented it for not being their personal self insert fan fiction.
I recommend you read up on it then. You might find it interesting.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays
“Why did you put transgender people in this thing? Why did you make it divisive?”
“Wait. Walk that back. Why do you think that adding transgender people makes something divisive?”
The bigotry is hidden in the questions, but they’re not hiding so successfully anymore.