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Beehaw* defederated us? (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Not a good look. I get its the admins choice and all but it just wiped out a lot of my subscriptions. Its not a good look from the perspective of new users and increases the number of duplicate communities across instances.

I had hopes for it but I guess I'm one of the lucky ones who signed up for lemmy.world.

I think they should just ban problematic users not the whole instance.

[–] Googleproof 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can get their desire to vet users before they can join their instance, but for me (and I suspect a lot of other people who are just starting with Lemmy, or just shy people) the effort of making a social interaction with a stranger was enough of a turn off that I went elsewhere. Beehaw still seems nice, I may still make an account there at some point. But, to figure out if a place suits me, first I lurk, then I engage by voting, then I engage by commenting, and eventually I may eventually post. I get applications, but they feel intrusive to how I use the internet.

I also get why they defederated, frankly there’s a tonne of low effort from the big new instances. However, everyone should expect low effort right now because users are antsy from having left reddit, and the low effort posts are the anxious laughter of people new to the party who don’t know anyone yet. So the defederation isn’t a good look, and will cause bad feeling with and within beehaw, so their mods have my sympathy. Better to have enabled downvoting and let the community handle the low effort posts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly, they got rid of actual voting in order to power moderate. This is all on them, users could also block whatever communities they didn't like.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I think they should just ban problematic users not the whole instance.

When the vast majority of the problematic users come from 2 instances with open registration, trying to do that is like stopping a flood with a bucket. I think theirs is a perfectly reasonable response to the troll attack they were just subjected to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They could also just use a whitelist of users who are allowed to comment/post on there. I have suggested as much but we will see how they respond. I might try and contact a mod over there if that's possible.

Edit: I've been told by another user that this isn't currently supported. I think it would be a good feature to add to lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Their post explains why your suggestions are not actionable.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But why would it disrupt your subscriptions if lemmy.world and SJW are still federating beehaw? Can't one instance federate another without it being mutual? Is that the difference between a non-federated instance and a blocked instances, where blocked instances cannot even read your content?

Edit: Actually I think I understand. I checked the blocked instances and they are not blocked just delinked. So in that case, you must be a beehaw user who lost your subscriptions to communities on lemmy.world and SJW.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just unsubbed from anything that was with them. Fuck em.