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[–] [email protected] 88 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

The minute we set foot in a sovereign country with intent to seize, we’ll be sanctioned into the ground by NATO. It will be completely warranted, yet Trump will somehow convince MAGA that they’re ‘attacking’ us economically.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Of all the people to blindly believe and follow, why him? Absolutely nothing I've seen about him even hints a wisp of "you can trust me" vibe. Did he do something amazing on The Apprentice? I never watched that screen feces, so I don't know what was portrayed. I can only assume it was something spellbinding and miraculous based on the cultist compulsion millions of human brains seem to exhibit.

Or did they all just hate Hillary Clinton or Obama SO MUCH that it permanently broke their brains?

[–] Reverendender 22 points 9 hours ago

He tells the shitty people that their hate is good and proper, so they convince themselves that his actions are correct.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 hours ago

Or did they all just hate Hillary Clinton or Obama SO MUCH that it permanently broke their brains?

don't underestimate how incredibly racist and sexist some parts of the states are

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

Of all the people to blindly believe and follow, why him?

Trump openly promises fascism in terms stupid enough that fascists can understand.

There's not much more to it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I assume you mean a western country with intent to seize, because we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and NATO supported those campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago

To be clear, NATO had no role in the invasion of Iraq, but UK and some other NATO members were part of the coalition.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

I did mean seize, not invade. I fixed the comment. Thank you for the correction.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

NATO can’t sanction the US.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Article Five of the treaty states that if an armed attack occurs against one of the member states, it should be considered an attack against all members, and other members shall assist the attacked member, with armed forces if necessary.

https://nato.usmission.gov/about-nato/

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

While NATO's Article 5 states that an attack on one member is an attack on all, it does not mandate a specific response, but rather each member decides what actions it deems necessary to assist the attacked member.

Besides, Panama is not a NATO member.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That clause is null and void between member states to prevent a WW1 situation.

Also, Panama isn't a member and would be defending, not invading.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

that's not really relevant here since panama isn't a NATO member

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

That’s true. It would apply to Canada and Denmark though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Sure, but they won’t.