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I am out of the loop. Is there a specific reason why? I thought the whole point was that it is a "fediverse"?
beehaw has a really insular culture that's strictly moderated. they have invite-only signups, are quick to remove things that are "off-brand", etc. their complaint here is basically: the amount of ex-redditors flooding lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works basically makes it difficult for them to moderate the way they want (cracking down on content that doesn't match their community), so they defederated, which removes those posts from their site.
Indeed the point of the "fediverse" is to have content between sites shared. but beehaw is a bit... special. and I have a feeling they'll defederate more and more instances as the fediverse grows, because their ethos is pretty much the opposite of it.
It sounds like not much of value will be lost, after all is said and done. It can't be that hard to migrate communities out.
well the cool bit about the fediverse is that if you're not on beehaw, then you can still access sh.itjust.works and lemmy.world stuff. and if you're not on sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world you can still access beehaw stuff. so us on kbin can still view all three instances just fine. we're essentially the fediverse swiss lmao
If this were mastodon or akkoma i'd say that sh.itjust.works could get beehaw posts from any other intermediary, but im not sure if lemmy works that way
Yeah, we still can. If I type beehaw directly in my search engine I can view all their posts and stuff, just anonymously and unable to comment or interact.
Those are outdated posts. See https://lemmy.world/post/149743 for explanation.
What I mean by search engine is literally just Google, I don’t mean my sh.it search function. If you’re not accessing Beehaw through one of the defederated instances then it won’t know you’re from a defederated instance, no?
Correct, but you can't reply or vote there without an account on beehaw or another instance that they do federate with. That's what they are concerned about. They are saying they are concerned about just anybody making posts or comments on beehaw because of open user registrations on lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
Yeah that’s why in my initial comment I said “just anonymously but unable to comment or interact”.
Your describing the limited mode that mastodon allows and Lemmy does not. Its effectively the biggest moderation tool Beehaw is saying they wish they saw in Lemmy. Some users in this thread are saying that's Beehaw being selfish. The posts you are currently seeing are outdated ones
on kbin we also see mastodon posts. idk if we get the content of one instance reshared from another though...
mod tools arent adequate (for now) to handle the influx of users basically, i believe. this comment about it is great: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/22433/Beehaw-defederated-us#entry-comment-90015