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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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I'm gonna get real with you folks, we've had way too many of these posts recently. I've been reflecting on this topic a lot the past few days. For me personally, I couldn't care less about my gender identity. But just because that's true for me, doesn't make that true for everyone.

The beauty of the fediverse is that if you don't like the way a particular instance or community is moderated you can simply choose another to hang out on, or create your own.

Blajah has made it pretty clear by now they will ban anyone who argues against the validity of xenogenders, in order to create a safe space for those folks. That's fair enough imo.

Safe spaces should be respected, and Blajah's admins/mods do not deserve abuse for creating and maintaining those spaces.

I can completely understand why Blajah users don't want to have to constantly argue with external users about the validity of their chosen identities. Bans are one way Blajah has decided to manage that problem so that their users can experience lemmy in relative peace and safety. While it is a blunt tool and I have my reservations about preemptive bans, there are not many other options for @[email protected], other than defederation from most instances. That would be a terrible outcome for the fediverse as a whole.

In order to help Blajah to maintain their safe space, I would like to propose, if @[email protected] agrees and community sentiment is positive:

  • that we no longer accept posts about this topic in this community; and
  • we also remove previous posts on this topic from the community.

That's all folks, have at 'er.

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[–] southsamurai 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Ehhh, what that screenshot shows is admins deciding that you didn't treat pronouns with respect.

Obviously, you disagree with their assessment. I do too, really, though I have seen their argument about it somewhere to and down the various threads.

That is a different thing.

I definitely get why you don't think it's different, but, looking at it from this side of the screen, that's not a statement of policy, it's a reaction to their interpretation of what you said.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Against my better judgement, I went into Blahaj back around the time of The Event.

Gender was always meant to help identify where in the spectrum of sex one is. Whether that be male, female, both, neither, slightly female, etc. Y'all are free to say your gender is goth, or as one user on Lemmy is becoming infamous for, Dragon; but you'll likely not be taken seriously, and ultimately you'll be setting back both progression for oppressed minorities as well as already existing accomplishments. PS: op should say what neopronouns are for those who may not know.

Removed: Gatekeeping

If gender means anything then some things are not gender. That's not "gatekeeping." It's a tautology. A word with no meaning is meaningless.

Removed: Gatekeeping

Just as I don't acknowledge "dragonfucker" as a gender I don't acknowledge "god" as a gender type. There's a person around here who insists that they're a god and that they're pronouns need to be capitalized. No one is a god. And no one gets to go around demanding that they're a god and that they should be acknowledged as one. I mostly linger here on blah as a habit really. If I eventually get banned so be it. I have my line in the sand for what will make me leave but until that happens I'll keep lingering like a fart.

Removed, no note

Trans women are women. Nobody is a dragon. Dragons aren't real.

Removed: Gatekeeping

No, I mean I'm no longer going to be on Blahaj, and those are the communities I'll miss. Hence "but… well, Blahaj isn’t for me, since I don’t acknowledge ‘dragonfucker’ as a gender."

Removed: Gatekeeping (that one's literally me)

A lot of people say a lot of things, who cares? I don't think it's an unfair line to draw at all. We draw it at what's real and what's not. Gender as a spectrum is real. We know this. We also know that the person posting comments on Lemmy isn't a fucking dragon because dragons aren't real. Line drawn.

Removed: Gatekeeping

Neopronouns are fine, but not all neopronouns are part of gender identity. Not all identity expressions are gender related. The entire spectrum of gender has a biological basis, and anything which doesn’t have a biological basis is an expression of identity, which is also valid, but not always related to gender. Like, no one can get a medical cocktail to transform into a dragon or cat. Please don’t confuse gender identity with other types of identity expressions.

Removed: Transmed stuff

All of that points pretty firmly to disagreement with dragon as a gender as gatekeeping, not a matter of respecting pronouns.

[–] southsamurai 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think where the disconnect is, is that you're continuously, in those quotes, making declarations about what it and isn't gender, what is and isn't trans.

That's what the comments were removed for.

In those quotes, you aren't seeking understanding, you aren't discussing the subject, you aren't expressing an interest, you're saying, directly "this is my opinion on the matter, and I refuse to consider any alternatives"

You literally say you're drawing a line in the sand.

That's gatekeeping, 100%

Does it make you a transphobe? Hell no. Does it make you a bad person? Not in any way whatsoever.

But it is you doing exactly what the rule is about: telling other people that they and their gender/pronouns are yours to decide the validity of

And that's okay, you have a right to have that opinion and draw that line. We all do.

You do see that though, right? That every quote you chose, it's you declaring other people's genders and pronouns invalid. It doesn't matter whether or not it was drag. It doesn't matter who you were talking about, you don't very to make that decision for others

You don't, I don't, nobody does.

We can all have great discussions about the semantics of gender, of how pronouns function, what their role in language, philosophy, and society are. We can even make declarative statements like that if we want to. But it doesn't change that if we expect our opinions on the matter to hold sway, we'd be assholes.

I mean, c'mon you directly brought in the whole biological argument. Like, the worst possible way to address the subject matter, the claim to have a inherently superior ownership of transness because it has to be biological, and only biology matters? You have to see that that's the exact bullshit being weaponized against trans people. Even if you didn't mean it the same way (and I know you didn't, I know you're not a bigot), it's the exact worst possible argument to use.

It's so arrogant, claiming to have not only the ability to know what is and isn't biological, but whether or not it has validity. You directly say that you're deciding what is and isn't valid, for other people. I mean, are you even a doctor? Of any stripe at all. Can you back up the claim that there's no biological mechanism at play that leads a person to have a connection to an animal that can serve the same role as gender identity?

Because there's a ton of information about neurodivergence out there, and some of it points to there being a high correlation between trans identities and neurological differences from cis brains. The overlap between a huge range of neuroatypicality and not just trans identity, but the very otherkin related identities being objected to is there, and neurology is biology. It just is. You can't have a brain that operates independently of its underlying biological imperatives. It's built by DNA, RNA, and epigenetics into this network of complicated nerves that run through a meat suit, interacting with it chemically and electrically.

That's biology. Now, I'm with you, there's no actual dragons that aren't komodo. And a cat isn't a human, nor is a human a cat. But I am not confident in saying that someone's inner self finding expression by identifying with or as a cat isn't biological. To the contrary, unless it only appears after disease or injury, I would say that it has to be biological in origin, even though the specific expression may be a psychological development as opposed to purely anatomical or physiological one.

While you are definitely not an enemy, not a transphobe, not a bigot, you definitely broke the rule, multiple times, and you picked your own quotes about it. If this was still about whether or not a mod action was justified, it would be totally YDI with that list of quotes.

At every step, you laid claim to the authority to decide for others whether their identity is valid.

I'm kinda beating a dead horse here because I'm a little flummoxed that you can't see all those comments and notice that you're doing exactly what they were removed for.

After all that, it really doesn't matter what the specific target was, it doesn't even matter that they are, defacto, making it clear that they accept xenogenders as valid genders within blahaj and that the rule applies to them. What matters at that point is that you had multiple comment removals and kept doing the same thing. I'd have banned you too, even preemptively because it looks like you're making it a fight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

I think where the disconnect is, is that you’re continuously, in those quotes, making declarations about what it and isn’t gender, what is and isn’t trans.

Only one of them is me, the one tagged with 'literally me'.

In those quotes, you aren’t seeking understanding, you aren’t discussing the subject, you aren’t expressing an interest, you’re saying, directly “this is my opinion on the matter, and I refuse to consider any alternatives”

In which case my original point is correct - that dragon being a gender is mandated by Blahaj policy or actions. Stating an opinion to the contrary is 'gatekeeping'.

And that’s okay, you have a right to have that opinion and draw that line. We all do.

Apparently not, considering the removals.

You do see that though, right? That every quote you chose, it’s you declaring other people’s genders and pronouns invalid. It doesn’t matter whether or not it was drag. It doesn’t matter who you were talking about, you don’t very to make that decision for others

Then you do agree that Blahaj policy is that dragon must be treated as a gender.

While you are definitely not an enemy, not a transphobe, not a bigot, you definitely broke the rule, multiple times, and you picked your own quotes about it. If this was still about whether or not a mod action was justified, it would be totally YDI with that list of quotes.

Again, most of them are not me, I picked them not as examples of what I believe, but as examples of objections that were fundamentally or exclusively to 'dragon' as a gender, without significant hostility which were removed as gatekeeping - ie me attempting to prove my point that dragon as a gender is absolutely core to this whole debacle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Ehhh, what that screenshot shows is admins deciding that you didn’t treat pronouns with respect.

Obviously, you disagree with their assessment. I do too, really, though I have seen their argument about it somewhere to and down the various threads.

That is a different thing.

I definitely get why you don’t think it’s different, but, looking at it from this side of the screen, that’s not a statement of policy, it’s a reaction to their interpretation of what you said.

Legitimately, I don't see how that can be reasonably interpreted to be about pronouns at all. My objection was to dragon as a gender. I was banned for 'gatekeeping'. Redirecting that to a pronoun dispute requires a reading that I literally cannot see, not simply one I disagree with.