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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Their Swiss CEO decided that supporting an authoritarian American neo nazi regime was a good idea

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago

And they decided that posting on Mastodon was bad so switched back to r*****.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

There is that, but did anything happen to the service itself?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

If you're on Proton to be privacy-oriented and stop governments or corporations from accessing your data, do you really trust the company when their CEO is cozying up to an authoritarian regime? I just don't see Proton fighting any information requests from Trump right now, and just from a utilitarian perspective that makes them a bad choice for me as a user.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Personally, I feel like their service, except for VPN, was always half assed.

  • No access to SMTP for automation
  • Need to use that shitty bridge to use a useful client
  • No pgp encryption in their web interface when talking to people not at proton
  • proton drive does not offer any useful protocol like ftp, webdav, or sftp
  • Calendar and Contacts cannot be easily synchronized to phone and desktop apps

The list goes on. I have only one account left with a proton email and the letter with a code so I can change that lies on my desk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

There is no way to have a secure or private SMTP service.

[–] timbuck2themoon 4 points 16 hours ago

They definitely allow you to use pgp with people not at proton via the web ui.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago

Good point. I actually quit proton a few years ago because of the lack of SMTP and caldav.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

He's not Swiss, he's from Taiwan

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The creator is pro-Trump and they also recently stopped posting updates to Mastodon citing "they don't have the resources" for it, or something like that.

Correct me if I have missed something; I've got no skin in the game, I just see the drama a lot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

So weird these business guys get involved into political crap. It's gotta alienate one side or another, simply lose lose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Found this the other day, and it sorta makes me agree that this is getting a little blown up

https://lemm.ee/post/55314225

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

And the top comment explains why it indeed is such s big issue. This is incomprehensibly incompetent.

There are few more services you need to be able to trust beyond your mail and VPN. If you have still trust then that's ok, don't get me wrong - but stating "just because the CEO spewed s bit of pro trump shit this got blown out of proportion" doesn't acknowledge the propositions at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Encountered someone from local instances in the wild.