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Damn I'm more pro-China than any other country but I absolutely hate that they do this.
China number one, for real??
I knew this was gonna get dislikes. Have you seen their infrastructure? Their technology? Their scientific advancements, Their social security, their political involvement as citizens...
I'm not saying I'm pro-China period, just comparing them to other countries. The ccp did a lot of things wrong and I'm against that. I'm also not a black and white thinker.
I haven't voted for your comment. I'm just wondering how a police state dystopia is THE favourite. As you said, considering a multitude of pros and cons, isn't there anything else?
Would you ever believe it if it wasn't a police state dystopia? I wouldn't feel this way if I believed it was. Have you gone out of your way to do extensive research on the politics, history and quality of life in China over the course of months or years and looked for multiple sources from multiple parts of the world? Or have you just read/watched the news and had history class? Maybe found a book in a library one time? You don't need to question whether I love dystopias. Do question if I know or at least think I know what you know.
Have you been there? Its a police state dystopia
Can it be a police state dystopia if the people self censor to stay out of trouble, corruption, and racism run rampant?
That said, the PRC is a complicated place and the standard of living and health conditions of pretty much everyone have gone from mostly poor to generally good over a single generation. I think it's fair, yet sad, to say that wouldn't have happened any other way.
The public transport is amazing. And if you're willing to conform, and be Han or a model minority in a traditionally Han dominant area, you're living well. Purchasing power is generally high, and even the vast vast majority of the poorest people have houses and food.
Source: speak Mandarin and worked in China for a few years.
I'm so jealous you were there and can speak the language! I'm having a hard time. :')
I heard that the re-education camps are actually high quality spaces with classes that explain Chinese culture in a positive way, should they want to fit in but people can practice their own customs too. they just want them to adopt something, anything. I'm trying to word that carefully. I can't remember the name of my source right now, I'd have to check later. So yeah but if you put it that way, it doesn't sound so bad. You can judge it but it's not harmful if that's the case. Regardless, I'm skeptical because of how convincing certain other sources are too. Yeah it sucks how racist the country can be.
I've not seen inside one, so I can't say. From the outside they do look a lot like prisons though.
But the word 学校 (school) is essentially a swear word in Xinjiang now and has an impact on the atmosphere. It irks me that pretty much all coverage and reporting is done for US benefits and as a stick to beat China with. Not actually out of care or respect for the ethnic groups going into them.
China isn't a big, irrational, evil. It's a big place led by people making decisions. You won't find any nation-state, let alone a large powerful one acting in a moral way.
I hope you can find a chance to visit it for a time. It's a cliche, but English teaching is an easy route to take to get in and have a chance to see China for yourself.
It's not about the messenger, you are not attacked and don't need to react as such.
My comment was that wouldn't there be other options if one considers "extensive research on politics, history and quality of life", multiple sources etc. anywhere.
Actually no, as far as I'm aware of. I'm really into global econ stats and none come close to China, it's really remarkable.That's what caused me to research it more. Sorry if my comment sounded butthurt.
No worries. I'm just curious. There has definitely been advancements. And then the various rankings and indexes on happiness, equality, freedom, health, other qualities paint a different picture. Of course one could ponder if some of them are biased, and still, maybe an aggregate of all could provide value...