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The kid's grandparents got him an Amazon Fire tablet and I loathe the thing. It teaches literally nothing about computing and the games they have for kids are barely even games, and are more focusing on advertising various IPs.

I'd like to get the kid started, as he learns to read, on something that will be more useful than detrimental, let that soft little brain soak up some actual computer science, literacy. I teach him about basic electrical circuits and how that translates to computing, if, and, or, xor, nor, etc. He's got some familiar with hex (colors) and the concept of binary (on/off).

But what to get for a first computer? I almost want to get him something Linux based and turn him loose. Is there anything like that, that would require him to learn some command prompt and basic computing skills?

Every time and try and Google it, I get a bunch of crap suggestions and ads.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Can the kid ride a bike yet? Kick a football? Swim?

I love reading now, but when I was 5 I only wanted to look at the pictures in books, not the words.

My friend hates to fishing, because he dad tried to force it on him before he was ready.

And if he is interested, it's probably better you build one together than buy one.

imho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I agree with the idea of trying lots of different things, especially physical activities. If you're kid falls in love with computers early that's awesome but it can also lead them down a road of bad health habits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Can the kid ride a bike yet? Kick a football? Swim?

I love reading now, but when I was 5 I only wanted to look at the pictures in books, not the words.

I was writing code in first grade, which I guess would be 6 or so. And I didn't have a home computer back then, had to do so on what time I could scrounge up in my limited windows of time of access to other people's computers or computers at institutions, which raised the bar. Today, computers are cheap and plentiful enough that it's pretty easy to get ahold of one.

I could definitely write software before I could ride a bicycle. I still don't know how to kick a football.

It's definitely doable.

I think that a lot of what we set our expectations around is around when schools choose to teach things. Like, I remember


as an American


being shocked when I discovered how young people in the UK and some other countries started being taught foreign language. In the US, our school system doesn't really do much by way of foreign language education until...I guess high school? 9th-12th grades, so maybe around 14-17 years old. But in the UK, you can (or used to, dunno if things have changed) take Latin in primary school.

kagis

Yeah, sounds like they made it mandatory recently:

https://www.oxfordowl.co.uk/for-home/school-year/subject-guides/languages-at-primary-school/

The 2014 Primary National Curriculum once again made learning a foreign language compulsory at Key Stage 2 (Years 3 to 6). Schools are free to choose whether to teach an ancient or a modern language; it is much more about language learning skills than the particular language on offer. Your child could therefore learn French, Spanish, Mandarin, German, Arabic or even Latin — the choices are endless! However, once your child begins secondary school the teaching of a modern foreign language is compulsory.

I thought "that seems like an incredibly-advanced topic for a young age". But...really, that's just my expectations set by convention here in the US, not that there's an inability to learn language at a young age (and in fact, there are some strong arguments that learning language is easier the younger you do it).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

I think that it's possible to start learning just about anything at an early age if the child wants it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If he has support, he'll be fine. My issues learning stuff growing up was no one in my family to teach me anything, so frustration and giving up was common. Imo fishings just boring af most ppl would hate it, especially if you don't like nature. Learning code is way easier younger, your brain just makes associations related to language easier. Coding itself isn't particularlly hard, easier the younger you learn.
There are coding related games on iphone like human resource factory that might help.

Id introduce them to scratch on the tablet and see if they like that.