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They stopped the Russian advance on their own, long before any shipments of weapons arrived.
The fact they've been able to hold out this long against a numerically superior foe is indeed due to massive support from other countries. But if they hadn't held the line in the beginning, alone, there wouldn't have been anyone to support.
I won't ever look down on them. They spilled the blood and cried the tears. All we did was throw them a bunch of surplus shit we didn't need anymore, so that our MIC can sell us newer shit.
I'm not in any way trying to "look down on" Ukraine. I am criticizing a statement because I believe it wasn't an effective way to make an argument.
Yes, you are trying to look down on Ukraine by focusing so hard on material suppllies over human lives.
Don't tell me what I'm trying to do. This is ridiculous. You can say it seemed like that's what I was trying to do, or that you misunderstood me. But respectfully, fuck off with that.
I know what I meant and what I said. Zelensky did not make an effective argument. That's where the conversation ends. No looking down on anyone.
I'm tired of not being able to voice even the slightest bit of a disagreement with zelensky just because his country was invaded.
Every single time people just assume I'm anti Ukraine, because they can't fathom the idea I would criticize something that I overall agree with. Its fucking ridiculous.
Keep digging that hole!