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[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If making targeted strikes against specific structures is grounds for calling it a genocide then what does launching 10,000 unguided rockets randomly into who-knows-what in a single day count as?

I hold the incredibly unpopular opinion that both sides have been absolutely terrible for a long time so don't come at me for picking a side. I am genuinely curious if you consider both of those acts of aggression as a genocide or not based on your own listed definition.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

There were no targeted strikes. Biden told Israel to stop carpet bombing Gaza and Netanyahu's defense was that he was doing a Dresden.

What does launching 10,000 unguided rockets randomly into who-knows-what in a single day count as?

There were no 10.000 rockets in a single day. It was like 2200 and most of them were simple distraction rockets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My apologies. It was ~10,000 rockets including October 7th and up until now.

However on October 7th specifically there are several reports putting the number around ~5,000 in a single day. All fired indiscriminately into primarily civilian areas.

Yes they were "distraction" rockets to overwhelm the iron dome, but most of those continued into strike again civilians primarily.

So if it's a genocide when Israel is firing rockets into Gaza then why is it not a genocide when you reverse the roles?

Logically they would either both considered attempted genocide or neither of them would be considered genocide.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This is how resistance from a concentration camp works. Hamas took great care to avoid child casualties. Israel takes great care to create child casualties.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"Hamas took great care to avoid child casualties"

https://www.barrons.com/news/how-many-children-were-killed-in-hamas-s-october-7-attack-9c1d8239

They shot one baby in the head along with their father inside of a bomb shelter.

They burned another baby and two other kids along with their parents.

They killed another 35 minors on October 7th alone.

And before you even try to claim that news source is biased they are independently reviewed to be a "center" news source.

I can openly admit that Israel has killed who even knows how many kids in Gaza since October 7th.

The only difference is I find both sides here to be sick and evil. You seem to think only one side of this conflict has done anything wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Israel is confirmed to have killed at least 6 of the children you are mentioning so half your comment is discarded. The burnt children you are mentioning were confirmed killed by IDF tank fire.

Your dramatization of a baby being shot while held by an IDF militant is not relevant either.

Nonetheless even counting all the minors as killed by Hamas, it would constitute as 3% of the total Israeli deaths on 7 october.

The children killed by Israel in Gaza constitute more than 40% of the total deaths.

These numbers alone very clearly show who is targeting children and who is not.

This is not taking into account Israel on average killed more children in Gaza every single day than the total amount killed on 7 october.