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Democrats in denial over Trump defeat, voters say: ‘Haven’t learned the lessons’
(www.theguardian.com)
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In a 2-party system why should Dems even bother trying to change themselves or how the party operates? I mean they are (or used to be anyway) guaranteed to be voted in again at some point in the future.
As for the last election imo they just didn't look far enough ahead to see the danger of Trump 2.0. They dilly dallied around with dumb shit, only paying attention to billionaires, completely ignored Americans' views on Isreal, showed almost zero interest in reigning in food/housing conglomerates' profits, etc.
Trump got massive gains in several key demographics that are key to long term party success. Most notably Hispanics, which are closing in on the predominant demographic. The wins for men and non college educated people are also a problem, they aren't as important, but you can't afford to lose such large demographics by such a large margin.
While no Republicans have really shown to be able to maintain the a fervent base like Trump's, it's extremely risky to just trust that people will flock back to the Democrats in a future Trumpless election. A more palatable republican with 75% of Trump's base could easily see a Reagan level landslide victory.
Along this vein, something I don't see people talking about is that if the current Gaza ceasefire holds Trump will (justifiably or not) take credit for it and at least Michigan will become a solid red state not unlike Florida. Maybe Arizona too if that one popp is to be believed.
Politically supporting Palestine is a terrible move for either party outside the Dearborn area in Michigan. There isn't a relevant mass of people that actually care, Lemmy is a massive echo chamber of a minority position on this.
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We just had tons of exit polls. Foreign policy was a primary issue for around 5% of voters. Support for Israel was considered not enough or about right by a significant majority 60%+. You can pick whatever news source you like, the results are within a few points of each other.
And you don't see the glaring obvious problem with relying on EXIT POLLS, when the primary cause Kamala lost was because a substantial portion of Biden's voter base simply stayed home?
You'd rather rely on feels and a mythical silent majority?
No, I'm relying on polls that actually poll people who voted for Biden but stayed home in 2024. Among those 19 million people, who exit polls would not capture, a full third of them cited Gaza as their reason for staying home.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza
And we're not talking about a silent majority. We are however talking about a crucial slice of the base that Democrats need if they want any hope of winning a national election.
There you go.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza