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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's overly simplistic. Fascists and theocrats work together to gain power for all the time. See the current marriage of Trump and Christian Nationalists in the United States, for example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That has nothing to do with my claim which is specific to Islam. As Islam posits a caliphate as the ideal state it is incompatible with fascism which requires faith to be subservient to the state. Iran cannot be as Muslim fascist theocracy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

There is often a very large gap between what is seen as ideal and what pans out in reality. Fascism is absolutely a possible result of an attempt to establish a caliphate, just as an authoritarian dictatorship or oligarchy - sooner or later - is a possible result of an attempt to establish communism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago (1 children)

If you end up fascist you cannot be a Muslim theocratic state which is what Islam posits as the ideal this you cannot have a state that is both fascist and an Islamic theocracy. This combination is entirely possible for other faiths that do not posit an ideal state.

You cannot be both.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

You're making a pure semantics argument, saying that an "Islamic theocracy" means something so specific that even if a fascist regime could be considered both Islamic and a theocracy, you can't call it that because only caliphates qualify for that label. It's a bit silly.