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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If YOU stop eating animal products, and convince other people like I have, the demand for them drops.

didn't you try that?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And Ive reduced my carbon emissions immensely. Now it's your turn.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So you believe that shit BP made up about us watching our carbon footprints so they can blame us for climate change? If so then shut the fuck up, because you don't actually care about stopping or reducing climate change, if you're going to advocate for the solutions that were literally made up by the oil companies so we wouldn't protest them and/or get their business BANNED, which is how these problems are actually solved.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/23/big-oil-coined-carbon-footprints-to-blame-us-for-their-greed-keep-them-on-the-hook

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes I'm aware of that. You can go vegan AND protest oil companies, look at Greta Thunberg. Just because a bad corporation tells you to cut down on your emissions, doesn't automatically make that message bad.

I like the passion though, doesn't it feels frustrating being so anti-oil company, but defending the meat industry? They're both horrible industries destroying the planet, propagandizing the populace, and destroying our health.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

as far as I can tell carbon emissions keep rising.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because people continue to emit carbon. If people went vegan, carbon emissions would reduce.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

but you just said that you went vegan, and they didn't reduce. the evidence does not support your theory.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They did reduce. Fewer animals have been bred to feed me as my demand isn't there. Fewer emissions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

which farm farmed less because of you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The ones I used to buy meat from.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And if I and all other vegans started eating meat, they'd need to produce even more.

You do realise me eating meats means the world has to produce more meat right?

If Billy has 5 marbles, and Johnny asks for a marble, Billy now has 4 marbles. Billy will have to get another marble to have 5 again.

If Johnny doesn't ask for marble, Billy will still have 5 marbles.

Am I going to fast for you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

if I and all other vegans started eating meat, they'd need to produce even more

there is no reason to believe more could have been produced than already was.

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why is there no reason to believe that

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You do realise me eating meats means the world has to produce more meat right?

that's not causal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Billy is making marbles. Billy now has five marbles. Johnny buys all five marbles. Billy now has to make more.

One day, Johnny stops buying marbles. Question, does Billy endlessly continue making marbles forever? Or does Billy stop once he realises demand is causally linked to supply?

Let me know if this is still too complex.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Billy now has to make more.

no he doesn't. he gets to choose whether to make more.

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm going to treat you like a toddler, because I genuinely don't think you have the capacity for anything more. Here we go!

Billy no make marbles because people no buy anymore. Billy too many marbles!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

does Billy stop once he realises demand is causally linked to supply

but meat continues to be made in greater quantities ever since you stopped buying it. your theory doesn't hold up.

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh you're being obtuse, okay. Maybe when you've grown up a little and can understand cause and effect you can have this conversation. Finish high school maybe? Get a degree, come back to me when you can actually talk with the intelligent people.