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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from [email protected] for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

most cows on the planet have literally nothing of what you described.

that's not true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Most cows on the planet are currently living in factory farms as cattle a few months away from being slaughtered.

veterinary care

Not in factory farms. Preventative antibiotics are not veterinary care.

protection from the elements

Limited protection. In summer extreme heat from being stuck inside without air conditioning.

space to graze

Not inside factory farms.

opportunities to socialize

Not inside factory farms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Limited protection. In summer extreme heat from being stuck inside without air conditioning.

so you see they do get protection from the elements

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Not inside factory farms.

most dairies, even large scale dairies, have pasture. beef cattle are raised 12 to 14 months grazing before going to a feedlot. so where are all these life-long confined cattle?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Not inside factory farms.

it seems like you think cattle spend their entire lives in a cafo. they don't.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most cows on the planet are currently living in factory farms

care to cite this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Good lord you argue in bad faith. One line replies of basically "no", "doubt it", "citation needed".

Like, come on man. How insufferable.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

this isn't evidence, it's a rhetorical complaint about being asked for evidence.

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

How isn't it evidence?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

US 2022:

Haven't found any numbers for other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

a full 1/4 of all cattle never spend more than 45 days in a cafo, but even those that do don't necessarily have the conditions you are describing, nor do they live there their entire lives

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Where's your citation for this

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not in factory farms. Preventative antibiotics are not veterinary care.

they are, and that's not all the care they get

edit: I have been politely asked not to engage in the off topic discussion in this community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

What other care do they get?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

saying it doesn't make it true

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago