(Go stick your head in a pig!)
Come to think of it, "share and enjoy" is exactly the way I would expect an AI-generated YouTube video to end.
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Yeah this whole time I thought he was a at least a Heinlein fan…
You assume he reads
He apparently doesn't even watch movies. See my other reply in this comment thread.
Considering Heinlein had a lot of sympathy/support for fascism, it makes sense Musk would be a fan.
Are you just saying this because of Starship Troopers? He explored a lot of ideas through fiction but I don’t think you can call him a supporter of fascism because of that one book, unless you know something else about his personal life. Of all his books I’ve read I think the only real ideological through line is “horny old guy objectifies women and that’s OK”.
Like Stranger in a Strange Land has Space Jesus starting a revolutionary free love commune, I don’t think that’s really in line with fascism.
Agreed entirely. Heinlein is one of my top 5 sci-fi authors and you are correct. Each of his works comes in from a different angle and they're often quite interesting. "Sexually-available pretty young women" is a consistent theme but never the point of the story. Even in_ I Will Fear No Evil_ wherein the old man main character becomes a beautiful young woman, her sex appeal is present throughout but not the point at all.
Yeah, I can’t even hold the pretty young women thing against him, because he clearly thinks of them as people instead of objects. It’s just kind of a funny quirk, like Tarantino’s creepy foot fetish. Calm down, Grandpa, and finish the very thoughtful and nuanced story.
And his love of Ronald Reagan, his love of libertarian capitalism, his love of noted racist Ayn Rand's work, and constant sexism towards women in almost every novel.
Like every Sci-Fi writer has their issues, but Heinlein is far from any form of progressive.
No but it abandons plot for gratoius sex scenes with a Jesus figure where all women find him hot, so it's not exactly the best thing for "Hey abandon the patriarchy."
Libertarianism is not Fascism. Fascism doesn’t mean “right wing politics I dislike”. It doesn’t mean patriarchy or sexism or even racism (which Heinlein was provably not). He was a radical individualist, and his ideology was absolutely at odds with ethnonationalism and authoritarianism, the two major hallmarks of fascism. He was progressive about a great many things including sexuality, religion, and individual freedoms. You can criticize him for being a capitalist, but don’t conflate it with fascism.