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Michael Moore Says He Will Not Tamp Down Anger Stirred by Luigi Mangione
(www.hollywoodreporter.com)
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Didn't hear shit from him during the Obama admin, even as Obama continued to do all of the things Moore criticized Bush for.
Moore was way to the left of Obama and always has been. What you want, him to get up on stage at every moderate and right winger and shout "I'm still correct and more progressive that you are" to prove he's consistent?
Dude hasn't changed what he does since the beginning, maybe pay attention.
If the Iraq war, gitmo, the Patriot act, etc were problems under Bush then they were problems under Obama too. But for some reason Michael Moore was MIA during the Obama administration. He straight up disappeared for 8 years. That tells me he didn't have a problem with those things, he had a problem with who was doing them. They're fine as long as a Democrat is pushing the button. Fuck Michael Moore.
I wouldn’t go as far as to say fuck Michael Moore, but I’d say all of the things you point out the entire liberal ecosystem was guilty of during Obama’s terms - and Biden’s too. It’s like the man could do no wrong despite doing a 180 on what he got elected on. The fact that liberals refused to hold Obama accountable is why we got trump in 2016. They doubled down with it being her turn despite the fact she was even more conservative and a warmonger than Obama (factually, Hillary voted for the Iraq war, Obama didn’t, both were democrat senators at the time).
Liberals only care about accountability when the other team is in charge. Omg there’s children in cages! (biden keeps those kids in cages, not a peep from liberals)
What's really infuriating is that you're not allowed to criticize Obama or Biden in a lot of these spaces without people accusing you of both-sidesing or supporting trump. Two things can be bad without being equally bad. This country has lost all sense of nuance.
Honestly they are equally bad in different ways. Every successive government since 9/11 and perhaps even before has expanded the security state at the expense of our rights. The popularization of using executive orders to go around congress and the authorization of all sorts of military operations outside of congress is again, a both parties thing. The lack of checks and balances on our government and real representation is how we ended up here… it was obvious from the passage of the patriot act to me (and the subsequent failure of Obama, trump and biden to do anything about it) that one day a tyrant will use it to fully implement fascism. Look at how the security state - under biden - is responding to Luigi - would they do that for any other murder? No, they wouldn’t. Look at how democrat NY gov hochul is gonna set up a special crisis hotline for scared CEOs. Why isn’t she doing that for anyone else? Rhetorical question. Look at how biden pardoned the cash for kids judge (truly despicable wtf was he thinking) and left the climate science lawyer to rot? Look at how biden kept kids in cages and Obama kept prisoners in torture conditions at Guantanamo. The democrats are the banality of evil, the republicans are simply more overt and have their fascism in the National-Christian variety, also known as nat-c, aka christofascists. The democrats are technofascist - look at Obama’s cozy relationship with big tech and subsequent high tech surveillance state expanded under him with even more power for agencies such as the NSA… look at the social media algorithm manipulation that’s been going on since it started - under every admin. And now the US is blocking Chinese run tik tok - can’t have US spooks controlling a foreign run algorithm like they do in the US. The republicans are just the vanguard for fascism and the democrats backstop any reform towards the ever increasing right wing swing.