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Florida made it easier to involuntarily commit people. A new lawsuit says it’s violating the law.
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It probably should be easier, but there needs to be a set process for doing it correctly.
Here in Portland we set up an agency called Portland Street Response to respond to 911 calls that might not necessarily need police involvement.
Someone is in a mental health crisis, but not threatening themselves or others? Street Response pulls up instead of the cops.
BUT -
They can't put anyone on a psych hold. They can offer advice, point someone to resources, try to talk them down, but they can't have someone committed.
Which, in my mind, kind of defeats the purpose.
Absolutely not, it’s a massive violation of people’s autonomy already.
I think it’s completely unacceptable to involuntarily commit people that aren’t even threatening anyone. Let alone “threatening themselves” which is equally a concept that goes against autonomy and should not be a valid reason for commitment either. And I’m not even talking about how often abused this is in practice.
If people are in crisis they have already lost their autonomy. Society has a responsibility to keep them from harming themselves or others.
Says who? You should defer drawing that line to the experts; who will likely agree with 2xsaiko. Not being able to perform your job or blend in with society is different from being a threat to others.
Says anyone who has seen someone in crisis.
You think THIS person has autonomy?
https://x.com/Wtfportland1/status/1686570302984314880
Or this person?
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/naked-man-charged-with-attacking-woman-on-max-platform-was-released-from-custody-hours-earlier/283-13a6c2da-6d29-4e69-a35e-8c93bb14d974
or this person?
https://eastpdxnews.com/general-news-features/naked-man-in-shed-on-se-rhone-street-threatens-cops/
They are LITERALLY incapable of making decisions for themselves. If they were, they wouldn't be running around naked in the rain screaming.
We're talking with exception to people who don't threaten themselves or others. Themselves being the gray area.
Of course you would only focus on people having a psychotic breakdown where they threaten others, but having a mental health crisis does not mean someone is automatically a threat to those around them.
Here's a guide to de-escalating various mental health crisis situations.
What constitutes a threat to themselves is living in squalor in a burned out car because they're incapable of making the correct decisions to care for themselves or others.