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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If they want to defer to authority, they can just keep voting in the ruling party. Democracy doesn't mean no choices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Voting? Democratic elections are literally not a thing in China, at least not higher than the level of the village. There are no political parties other than the Communist Party. But for Western democracies I do agree. We have no excuses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My later comment was misunderstood. If being ruled by strong Communist leaders is the "political culture" of China, then fine. Give them a choice every few years and they will keep selecting that.

But we all know that the "revolution" needs to maintained by not giving the people the choice. If given a choice, the people might be "fooled" by Western influence and select someone other than the Communists. So the Communists pick all the candidates and then let the people choose only between them.

The fact is that the "political culture" that supposedly backs authoritarianism would not survive free and open elections. The political culture being unwaveringly Communist is a sham and a lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Fair point. I just looked into this and what I said was roughly correct: there are indeed somewhat open elections at the local level in China, but further up the pyramid everything is locked down by the Communist Party hierarchy, as you say.

Turns out to be a pretty complicated system in theory, and it must work to some degree because China just had 40 years of incredibly successful development.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Voting is absolutely meaningless in Xi's China. But I gotta give it to them for their solar panel work. Too bad it's all about to jump in price due to the idiotic tariffs.