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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I met a guy once who flew Nazi flags on his car. Figured I’d actually talk to him about it reasonably rather than reacting and calling him a Nazi. He basically explained he only did it because he had the right to because of freedom of speech and expression.

It was almost like he was just trying to bait people because he enjoyed the commotion?

Idk it was weird, but makes me wonder if that’s how most of these “nazi” people are

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"I'm only being a Nazi ironically" is the attitude of either someone whose opinions should not be taken seriously in any circumstance, or a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I once knew a guy who hung one in his bedroom "because I liked the colors."

If it smells like bullshit...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Shoulda suggested he use the flag of Albania instead

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What difference does it actually make? That person is still performing Nazi-ism, even if they say they don't believe it. That person is still showing support for Nazi-ism, and making minorities feel unsafe.

To be clear, there is a really good chance that they are full of crap, they do believe it, they're just "joking" until the final punchline lands.

But one's internal beliefs don't actually mean much in comparison to their actions.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't the illegal part of Nazi-ism the actual fascism, violence, othering, couping, etc parts though and not its symbology?

Does overly assigning evil to a set of symbols give a path for similar evils with different symbols to come about? I've wondered about that and modern American Christian Fascism -- I think it's more invisible than it should be because people conflate fascism with the Nazis symbols directly instead of its ideals and methods.

I never know how to feel about the auditors and 'law tester' people -- they sure seem assholish, but they do always make me think about interesting important questions about the law and society.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flying a Nazi flag is itself, with no other acts, hurting people. This is like saying "the cross burning didn't hurt anyone, the lynchings were the real problem".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry I meant to call that out more explicitly. The symbols do harm people because they've done damage, but the symbols themselves didn't do the damage and I wondered if not being more clear about that is why people don't see other modern fascist movements with different symbols for what they are.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being a nazi ironically is still being a nazi

[–] Tb0n3 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the driver is genuinely black, then I am genuinely confused 😱

[–] yata 13 points 1 year ago

Just because you are black doesn't mean you can't be a moronic asshole as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's the uncle ruckus syndrome lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is this Chester Stone?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

If he looks like a Nazi and he talks like a Nazi and he acts like a Nazi, then people will reasonably assume that he's a f*cking Nazi and that's how he should be treated until he gives us evidence to the contrary.