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2023: Italy ranks first in Europe: 694 cars per 1000 inhabitants. More than Luxembourg! Fuck cars (cdn.masto.host)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Italy is a car infested country. I would love to know impressions of fellow users from other countries that visit Italy: do you see this?

We rank in the low part for public transport and rails (except high-speed trains). Which is not surprsing

Moreover, automotive industry is sinking in Italy, so there is not even the justification of helping "economy", for pushing on cars so much.

Finally, there are many more cars than car licenses in Italy. Which, IMHO, is completely absurd

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[–] 9488fcea02a9 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a visitor to milano, i had a really great time getting around on foot and metro. Also took rail to the alps and high speed train to torino. Italy is way less carbrained than north america

Also, a lot more scooters, motorcycles, and really tiny cars. So the roads feel safer compared to north america

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you tried to get out of Milan city proper your opinion of the transports wouldn't be as good.

Regional transport is not as well integrated specially outside of major cities.

[–] 9488fcea02a9 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

going to lecco, varenna, torino doesn't count as getting out of milan city proper?

i know the system isn't perfect, and plenty of locals complained about transit... but coming from a north american perspective italy has so much more transit options than we have here (both regionally and within the city)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Referring mostly for commuters. Regional trains are very busy and generally not well maintained.

Trenord the private operator doesn't do a good job. Trains are frequently late, packed and dirty

If you go outside the Rush hour it might be okay but at Rush hour it's a different story.

Of course if you compare to a City that has no or very limited transport options there's no comparison.