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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/15995282

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I haven't switched my phone yet, but will do so soon. Does anyone have experience with compatibility layers on phone, akin to wine? I unfortunately cannot go without my public transport apps, and they're android or IOS only. I've looking into postmarket OS, but open for suggestions.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Huh TIL, thanks! So would apps usually work, just like on regular android? Except the aforementioned, of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Most EVERYTHING works unless your app dev is PoS like these guys.

Another alternative is MicroG which might work better in light of recent development.

How zealous are you on dumping google?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Well yes and no. The point is to stop using Google. And that entails quite a few things you might expect a phone to do

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

You can take a look at calyxOS, it's what I use. Android but with all Google telemetry ripped out. It's not as resistant as graphene against a govt adversary, but for privacy, better battery (bc google stuff isn't constantly running) and still being able to use everything, it works great.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What public transport apps if I may ask? Most of Western Europe and especially Germany present no issues and even have OSS options, same with Finland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for the input, i realise it's been a while since I checked this! ÖBB Scotty, ÖBB Tickets (could forgo this one) and SBB mobile. I also need Digitales Amt (official government app for things like signing contracts without printing them, ordering your election materials to a different address than usual, checking your medical info etc). Do you happen to know whether that would work?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't know and sadly my Pixel got stolen recently, but you can see if Offi or Transportr meet your needs, they're available on fdroid.

I guess I have bad news for you regarding the government app: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/253-compatibility-for-austria-e-government-app

Anyway depending on your threat model keeping a normiephone as a decoy and mainlining something like graphene os can be a good opsec decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nice, thanks for the tip! Also thanks for going through the trouble of finding out for me, I appreciate it! I'm unfortunately in one of the regions where it's specifically not available. But the second phone thing might be an option. That, or just a compatibility layer with regular old android after all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well you can use Calyx instead, which supports microG instead of Graphene, at the expense of somewhat lower security level. Or wait until sandboxes google services gets patched accordingly.

[–] yonder 2 points 1 week ago

You can use Waydroid on PostmarketOS to install Android apps. It basically runs a full VM for you.