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Pay-per-mile fees have emerged as the most likely solution to dropping gas revenues linked to electric vehicles. (www.politico.com)

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[–] southsamurai 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope, nope, they can fuck right off using built in GPS shit. That's already too invasive.

Put fucking meters on chargers. That's the fucking answer. At home,, you get a fucking tax bill based on that meter. Away from home, you pay it at the "pump", just like gas.

Does out come with its own problems, yes, but not with more invasive bullshit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't see why just an odometer reading at insurance renewal wouldn't work. Vehicles would have to be registered by location of primary residence or place of business to limit avoidance of the tax, but then no tracking and no meters on every single possible charging device.

Sure, there'd be cross state/province travel, but would probably be negligible in the end.

[–] southsamurai 2 points 1 month ago

That would work fine too, just less immediate, which is a minor aspect for sure. A lot of people will buck at paying a hundred bucks a year (as an example), but won't think about 12 cents per gallon (or its equivalent) unless that rate changes.

But it would definitely cost less to implement for sure, what with no bed need to roll put meters.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A meter on a charger will be way too easy to circumvent. We’ve owned 2 EVs now and both came with portable chargers. Tesla also has a portable charger that you can plug into anything from a standard 110 outlet all the way up to 50 amp 220 volt outlets. All of those portable chargers would need meters as well, along with some way to ensure they are properly registered, read when used, etc.

If meters on chargers were mandated then you’d likely see an influx of unmetered mobile chargers from other countries as a way to circumvent the tax.

Edit: We have also charged for free at complementary chargers at parking garages, hotels, restaurants, stores, etc. If chargers started being taxed I bet a lot of those complimentary chargers would simply disappear rather than the owners paying the tax or trying to figure out how to collect it from users.

[–] southsamurai 0 points 1 month ago

Eh, I'm not worried about that even a hair as much as the privacy invasion. I'd rather have a thousand tax evaders (that will get caught eventually anyway) than one person being subjected to yet another means of tracking them without due process.