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[–] Kalcifer 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

While it isn't necessarily an argument against Threema's security, I think it's important to consider that Threema is owned by a privately held company ^[1[2]]^ — Signal is owned by a non profit ^[3]^.

References

  1. "Threema". Threema GmbH. Accessed: 2024-12-09T02:40Z. https://threema.ch/en/secure-messenger.

  2. "GmbH". Wikipedia. Published: 2024-09-27T06:24Z. Accessed: 2024-12-09T02:44Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmbH.
  3. "Signal Foundation". Signal Foundation. Accessed: 2024-12-09T02:45Z. https://signalfoundation.org/.

    Signal Foundation formed in 2018 to support Signal Messenger which originated in 2012. Through the Foundation, we have been able to support Signal's growth and ongoing operations as well as investigate the future of private communication.

[–] timbuck2themoon 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I almost think that's a pro. I don't understand how signal intends to pay for servers forever with voluntary donations. Though I'd be fine if they set up a mandatory annual fee.

Signal is far more polished IMO but both are great.

[–] Kalcifer 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t understand how signal intends to pay for servers forever with voluntary donations.

I think donations can be sustainable if the service in question is handled correctly. Imo, federation/decentralization would improve this, as it wouldn't place the cost burden on a single entity.

[–] Kalcifer 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I almost think that’s a pro. I don’t understand how signal intends to pay for servers forever with voluntary donations.

In the same vein, a privately owned service, to me, is rather suspect if it is free of cost — the money's gotta come from somewhere.

[–] timbuck2themoon 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Threema sells to businesses. It's a one time fee for personal.

[–] Kalcifer 2 points 1 week ago

It’s a one time fee for personal.

Ah, so there is! ^[1][2[3]]^ I didn't notice that. Thank you for pointing out that inconsistency in my previous comment; what I stated was conjecture, and, lo and behold, it turned out to be wrong.

References

  1. "Threema. The Secure Messenger". "Threema GmbH". Google Play. Google. Published: 2024-11-27Z. Accessed: 2024-12-11T02:45Z. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.threema.app.

  2. "How do I install Threema Libre?". Threema. Accessed: 2024-12-11T02:49Z. https://threema.ch/en/faq/libre_installation.
    • ¶1.

      Threema Libre is available exclusively via F-Droid. It requires a Threema Shop license, and the F-Droid app needs to be installed on your Android device.

  3. "Buy Threema for Android". Threema. Accessed: 2024-12-11T02:52Z. https://shop.threema.ch/en/buy.