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Trump announced plans to end birthright citizenship via executive action, despite its constitutional basis in the 14th Amendment.

He also outlined a mass deportation policy, starting with undocumented immigrants who committed crimes and potentially expanding to mixed-status families, who could face deportation as a unit.

Trump said he wants to avoid family separations but left the decision to families.

While doubling down on immigration restrictions, Trump expressed willingness to work with Democrats to create protections for Dreamers under DACA, citing their long-standing integration into U.S. society.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Things that aren't possible, at least under current legal frameworks.

I know that laws are only as good as they're enforced and all but barring wholesale collapse I find it hard to see Donny pulling that off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It is absolutely possible under America's legal framework. Mackenzie v Hare was the 1915 Supreme Court case, which ruled that a natural-born U.S. citizen woman could lose her citizenship by marrying a non-citizen man.

The holding functionally stood until 1967, when there was a case called Afroyim v. Rusk, where the court held that natural born citizens cannot be stripped of their citizenship involuntarily. But that was a 5-4 decision in the Warren Court, in many regards, the most liberal supreme court in history. A decision that barely won a majority in a court drastically more liberal than this one is what's standing between the US today and a world where natural born citizens can have their citizenship deemed forfeit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm cool with brain drain -- if this actually happens a nice European country will happily open their doors to the educated (see Ireland, Spain already) and america will further collapse like it should.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think there is a specific "class" of people they're going to target.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Brain drain will happen after prices skyrocket and folks are expected to wait it out. Places like Spain are cheap, but generally have a better qol than most places in America.

If European countries want to open their doors to distraught Americans I think it's a great idea because there are a lot of highly educated, highly skilled folks here that might just be done with the bs once maga really begins to churn.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well get ready to be surprised.