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Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m sort of new to Lemmy, having only been here a few months, and I started my first account here in world, the one I am commenting with.

What I found is that world has many cool and fun and interesting communities, but for news ( world or USA centered) is really centralist USA based. World has cut off access to many other cool and interesting communities that may have different viewpoints here and there.

I think the few experiences by trolls here from other communities is more of a walled garden thing, and if world has a more inclusive mix this would solve a lot of issues .

Me migrating to another instance still allows me to participate here in world, and I simply ignore what I don’t like here and elsewhere.

Honestly, world has as many issues with gatekeeping and power hungry mods as instances and the only way to get the full lemmy experience is to pick and chose what fits best with oneself

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think the few experiences by trolls here from other communities is more of a walled garden thing, and if world has a more inclusive mix this would solve a lot of issues .

You say be more inclusive of tankies and I say learn about the paradox of tolerance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s not wall to wall tankees , this is only a minority. Which for the non tanker, can be avoided and ignored.

I was talking more of a general problem by deciding what I wanted to censor myself rather than letting others do it for me. Baby and bath water analogy and all that.

And this extends way beyond tankees and piracy.

And since people are talking about hexbear, it does have the best Syrian news coverage

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you call out genocide denialism you get banned. That's enough for me to consider it wall to wall tankies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. If you have nine tankies sitting at a table and a person joins them you have 10 tankies sitting at the table. It works the same as it does for fascists.

It's like saying that there we're good people in Nazi germany. Therefore we should have tolerated Hitler. Why?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

insert cutesy pic of young Stalin

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you call out genocide denialism you get banned.

Which is the reason I stopped participating in some of world’s news and political communities, but because of a different genocide.

But I certainly did not go running to a community that promoted denial of other crimes. Instead I use the power of lemmy to pick and chose healthy communities.

Each instance has communities which are toxic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's true in general.

Indeed I've witnessed Palestine denial on .world, but I'd hardly call it the prevailing sentiment on any mainstream comm there. Each time the comment would be ratioed and loudly disagreed with, which is encouraging.

I will acknowledge that .world mods have some serious pet projects and issues which is very concerning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It’s something that is sporadically done, by some people based on the phase of the moon or what they feel like; but it’s tolerated by the other mods.

One does not see it much unless it happens to oneself or it’s read about elsewhere. However it certainly has an effect and perhaps is one of the reasons there are cycles of low engagement ( or at least lower than normal). Often people like me who have issues with it just quietly go elsewhere, which I more or less done.

But once I moved away, choosing a non political server as my new home, I was exposed to all the communities world blocks, and it was then I realized I had been censored

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel the same but ive given up on Lemmy. Probably need to find another platform for more grown up discussions.

Even reddit is far better. Hate to say it but it's true.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tell us if you find a better alternative.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You won't

Its a people problem, not a platform problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I know. But there are different platforms catering to different people, interests etc. I'm part oft some Linux, Free Software, special interest forums. And there definitely are communities with a very different atmosphere... So I wouldn't say it's impossible just because people are people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I think any large collection of people online are going to have issues similar to here; and while the distributed social networks have a distressing tendency to bunch up and get tribal, it’s better than only one instance, such as Reddit.

That said, I think these can be improved later

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Lemmy.ml and Lemm.ee are both more broadly federated than Lemmy.world if you want to combat the US bias of .world.

[–] neidu3 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yup, that's pretty much spot on. I don't really have a problem with .world myself. I do hear a lot of complaints about admin powertrips, but I've never used .world so I have not experienced this myself.