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It means "I believe in a magical world where the most important thing is official rules and social norms, decorum and tone, and even though those rules and norms are consistently broken and manipulated by bad actors, and now those bad actors make the rules, and they have no decorum and consistently use the most uncouth tones consistently to their own massive benefit, the rules will save us from the barbarity that they did not save us from, because my holier than thou, morally superior attitude will at least make me righteous in my uselessness at protecting and bettering society with rule magic."
Funny, coming from 'Dark Thoughts'.
Anyway, please continue enjoying using lemmy (on your computing machine almost certainly built by slave labor) to be aghast at an apt description of modern liberals, who also fully support drone strikes, extraordinary rendition, arming an ally committing a genocide, etc.
Yep, no murder or violence involved in being or supporting modern western liberalism, no sir.
The point was to illustrate that liberals, at scale, in their preffered national and world order, despite their claims to support equality and fairness and social justice, are actually fine with routine murder and exploitation, just as long as its obfuscated and justified through layers of organizations and bureacracy, done indirectly...
...whereas actual leftists, at bare minimum, acknowledge that this is the actual reality, that modern society ultimately just has a bunch of byzantine rules which justify and minimize the deaths and exploitation of some groups of people, such that others benefit from this.
The point was not to shame you personally and myself moral grandstand personally for existing and functioning in this world.
But you missed that and took it personally, and then switched into your venomous, hateful, vindictive, true self, after first doing the (i guess more moderate?) tactic of implying i am a dangerous person who may potentially murder any random person.
I could not have asked for a more perfect example of liberal narcissitic two-faced hypocrisy if i tried.
The right wing has done a lot of work to make the left believe that liberals (people in support of equal rights and social justice, to give the actual definition) aren't leftists in order to turn the left against itself. And people like OP actually believe them. They claim liberals are useless, but people like them are actually detrimental to the left.
Also worth noting that OP's rant wasn't about liberal ideas, but about pacifism.
Tankies support right-wing ideologies and a right-wing government, but Russia told them they're left-wing and they're dumb enough to believe them. I see you also believe them. Not sure why.
And no, that's the general definition. Liberalism places importance on personal freedoms, whether that's freedom of trade, speech, belief or expression. There are branches focused on trade and branches focused on expression, and they are ALL liberals. Not all fruits are lemons, but all lemons are fruit.
You don't get to be a leftist just because you claim to be one. There's a whole dang ideology. Authoritarianism is about as right-wing as you can be, which is exactly what tankies support. What makes them left-wing besides their own dubious claim?
I make an effort to support my claims. You just try to appeal to the fallacy fallacy without even addressing what I said.