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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If you want to convince Republicans to support Ukraine, the best way is to put it in terms that appeal to them:

  • It’s a jobs program. The more weapons we build for Ukraine, the more jobs we create in the defense industry.
  • It saves money. By getting Ukrainian soldiers to fight on our behalf, we destroy Russia at a fraction of the cost of fighting them ourselves directly.
  • It clears out our old inventory of shells and missiles which we would have to dispose of anyway, allowing our troops to get the newest and best.
  • It gives us access to extremely valuable real world testing. Ukrainians have developed new tactics using modern equipment (especially drones) that have rendered tanks and even several types of naval vessels obsolete.
  • It sends a message to the whole world that America is still powerful and it’s not going anywhere. One of the most pernicious elements in the Republican Party is a core of doves who would willingly surrender the world to dictators. Supporting Ukraine and Taiwan is the strongest challenge to those cowards.

That last one should especially be aimed at MAGA types. There is no path to American Greatness that involves retreating from the world stage.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It clears out our old inventory of shells and missiles which we would have to dispose of anyway

Giving old inventory to Ukraine is actually cheaper than disposal, so I've read.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

It is cheaper both in direct costs and in terms of unforeseen consequences.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but you can't use big words like pernicious with them, remember they can't read and many have lead poisoning so stick to Dr Seuss level language or lower.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

This is sadly true. A big reason why Republicans win is because they use quick simple catchphrases "Repeal and Replace!" "America First!" "Men don't belong in women's sports!", even if it's bullshit, the average voter gets some meaning from that.

Democrats try to be more accurate, and are just heard as "Nerd shit"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It you want republicans to support Ukraine, just explain its what Putin wants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The only way to convince Republicans to support Ukraine is to get Trump to say he supports it. Otherwise they won't no matter what terms you put it in.

They don't care about your terms. They never will. You're an evil liberal pinko commie socialist child groomer.