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The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?
NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:
…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.
It is actually encouraged to post multiple sources about a story here, especially if they cover different material or represent a different take. If you ever notice that a story is misrepresented or a perspective is underrepresented, please don't hesitate to post reliable news sources offering another perspective.
I can't help but notice that you've spammed Lemmy with this exact post.
Yup, I pasted it in the threads I came across that had poor OP articles. I could have written something unique but… exactly the same message was intended, and I didn’t want to leave any of their biased, popular posts without a response.
Because of course anything that involves Jews as victims must be biased, huh? The result of "anti-Palestinian racism" or some crap like that?
You're conflating Jews with Israelis.
Right, because antisemitic violence didn't exist before Israel.
What? That doesn't even parse.
Israeli does not mean Jew. Jew does not mean Israeli.
No? What does this have to do with Jews? These were some nationalist hooligans destroying Palestinian flags and harassing Arab cab drivers. Stop trying to conflate Israelis and Jews.
https://jewishcurrents.org/recent-polls-of-us-jews-reflect-polarized-community
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/
40% say they don’t have a lot in common with Jews in Israel. 42% don’t feel even somewhat attached to the state of Israel. 55% say caring about Israel is not essential to what being Jewish means to them. 66% do not strongly oppose Boycott Divest Sanction.
Stop trying to get people to confuse Jews and Zionists. Huge numbers of Jews have perfectly functioning moral compasses (probably about as many as average Americans) and don’t need to be conflated with Israeli instigators.
Its possible these numbers have shifted recently, as Israel works hard to scare Americans into fleeing to join their settler colonialism project.
Which gives the attackers license to be physically violent against those they disagree with?
Odd double standard.
https://apnews.com/article/maccabi-tel-aviv-amsterdam-violence-protests-palestinian-bcea212281f682098c4c77ef552af5f1
Antisemitism. End of discussion. There is no argument that makes this ok. I refuse to engage with anyone furthering the idea that there's any good reason to physically attack these people. Additionally, it is objectively false that antisemitism is confined to attacking religious people for their religion. That is a lie, and it is insanely dangerous to further that sentiment.
https://www.state.gov/defining-antisemitism/
Have a good day!
There is talk of a lot of things. Did she provide sources, or is it like Trump’s “people are saying…”?
You’re correct that the US has adopted a terrible definition of antisemitism that conflates the state of Israel and the actions of its genocidal apartheid government with Judaism.
Someone recently shared the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism with me, which I find to be a much more reasonable definition of antisemitism.
To preface this: Maccabi Hooligan can fick themselves.
But why the fuck do we paint this as "the brave people of europe do not tolerate apartheit" when people were yelling "Cancer jew" and other shit? Why the fuck do people assume that the VERY prevalent antisemitism in Europe suddenly morphed in to nuanced antizionism now that Israel is openly committing a genocide?
No, both sides of this attack can fuck themselves. Fuck Maccabi fans for shouting genocidal shit, smashing cars and attacking arabs and fuck the attackers for ambushing people, headkicking them while they are downed, stabbing them and applying this treatment to anyone wearing maccabi colors.
Which makes no mention of confining it to religion, it supports exactly what I've said.
Thank you for confirming that, and no, I've said nothing about how the us definition is terrible.
The article and mayor are objectively correct in denouncing the antisemitism. Those are the facts, and that's it. To suggest the article or mayor is lying to further your argument is misinformation.
I will not entertain any further argument from you in this regard. The facts are against you.