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Europe’s Greens ask Jill Stein to pull out of US election to prevent Trump victory
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No one is saying anything had to happen, but she was certainly invited there there for a reason.
You don't get put at a dinner table in Moscow with Putin unless Putin has a good reason for wanting you there.
He doesn't just sit down with random people and hope they have a good time.
Shit, and all this time I thought he just had a passion for entertaining!
That's basically what this person seems to be suggesting. Like she just happened to be sitting there and Putin and all of his closest people were like, "let's go see who this lady is and what she's up to!"
I did not say it was a secret election interference meeting. Do not put words in my mouth. That's just dishonest.
Please name this particular group you think I work for beyond 'people who don't trust someone who sits at a dinner table with the dictator of Russia at a state celebration in Moscow for English-language Russian state TV.'
And you are putting words in my mouth again.
Please continue to have the conversation with the imaginary version of me you have invented because you will no longer be having one with me.
Try being honest next time. And if you want to know what someone thinks beyond what they're saying, ask them. Don't just tell them what they're saying because you'll probably be wrong.
You're arguing with antiyanks again, btw. Don't bother with any accounts made within the past few days as chances are it's just them on a new account. It's almost their 40th ban now.
Except it's not what I'm suggesting at all. I haven't suggested anything. I've posted what Stein has said happened, which she says was a dinner at a RT anniversary gala where Putin only briefly sat at their table, no introductions were made, and no English-Russian conversations happened. If you have evidence of something else happening there, as you seem to be suggesting, then provide it.
Ah, I see the problem. You aren't reading my posts. Let me help you:
I've read all of your replies. Why would I believe that happened without evidence? Have you proven that she's networked with Russians or Putin? Suggesting something might have happened isn't evidence of the thing happening.
Repeating things isn't providing evidence. As I've said in another comment, being at a dinner table with someone isn't evidence of collusion. Putin sitting at a table with someone, even if he's the one who chose to seat himself there, isn't evidence that that person is colluding with him. He's sat at dinner tables with Hillary Clinton. Does that mean Clinton is a Russian asset? You'd recognize that claim as absurd without evidence surely?
You're comparing the First Lady at a state dinner to this, which was a celebration of Russian state media's English-language propaganda channel.
Yep. You're a troll.
Oh, but as you've said, nothing has to happen at a dinner right? They could've networked outside of the dinner. In fact, Clinton has had many closed door conversations with Putin, whereas Stein hasn't spoken with him at all to my knowledge. See how disingenuous that is? And how it makes having a conversation about this a little difficult? As does calling me a troll because you have 0 evidence.
Clinton actually worked for the government therefore has reason to meet with the leaders of foreign nations.
Stein is a physician. I’m pretty certain Russia has doctors. She had no reason to be there among the others.
Well, sure. I'm not saying that Russians didn't have a nefarious reason to invite her there. It's entirely possible and maybe even likely that they did it because they saw a third party candidate as a useful tool to sow some sort of election discord in the US. But that claim would be entirely different than the claim that Jill Stein did it because she's an asset or that this was her idea or purpose for being there. I'm disputing the latter, not the former, because her attending a gala for RT is not evidence of collusion and this was the implication being made. I can find all sorts of pictures online of Hillary Clinton and other politicians having dinners with Trump or Putin, but that doesn't mean the photos are evidence that they were in collusion with either of them.
I like how you are completely overlooking the fact that I never made any actual claim about her being a Russian asset.
You kept bringing up the asset thing.
This is what I wrote:
The asset part was a complete invention of yours.
So your response to me telling someone I never said anything about her being an asset is to suggest I said she was an asset?
Are you reading any of my posts or are you just intentionally doing this sort of lying?
You keep putting words in my mouth and now you expect me to answer your questions, huh?
Nah, first you apologize.